User talk:AlexShepherd/Archive 1

This is an archive, so please use my talk page instead!

Shattered Memories Box Art
Holy shitballs, nice spotting! That's some awesome looking box art. -- 23:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I know! It's pretty cool *pun* and Cheryl looks so disturbing, especially since you can't even see her eyes. When I look at her for too long, she really gives me the shivers *pun*! I can't wait for the game... by the way, are you getting it for the Wii or PS2? I'm undecided! AlexShepherd 00:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Wii definitely. Part of the pull of this game is the flashlight/Wiimote functionality. I think it would lose that sense of immersion on the PS2. Nice. -- 03:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A winter release. How ironic! -- 02:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Mainpage
Like the changes you made, looks a lot neater! --TheGoodman 12:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks a bunches =] AlexShepherd 22:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I noticed the random text generator you coded into the Mainpage wasn't randomly generating, so I added the code to a template at Template:RandomMPtext (though even in a template, the text doesn't appear to randomize...?). 19:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's kind of working for me. Like if I refresh the page 10 times in a row, the message will still be the same, but if I exit the wiki and come back on again an hour later, the message will be different. Then if I refresh the page again, it starts all over again! I think it's probably a Wikia error. It doesn't really matter though as long as it changes every once in a while.


 * Also, do you think we should add a poll to our main page? I think it's a good idea, do you know to add one? (since I don't) >.< I want to spruce (can't think of any other word) up the main page before our (possible) spotlight. AlexShepherd 20:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere in the knowledge dump that is Wikia Help, I came across coding for a poll...I think. I'll poke around and see what I can find. The random text rotated for me a couple of times when I first created the template, but hasn't done so since. It may require a browser purge to refresh it. 20:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Coding for a Poll is pretty simple, actually.



Is this a poll? Yes No

Is this a poll? Yes No


 * I'll trust coding it into the Mainpage to you...I tried, but it met with disaster. These polls are easy to manipulate, so I wouldn't rely on them for important stuff... 03:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried, but it doesn't seem to be working properly. =/ I think I found a solution that has to do with our common.css, can you try it? Thanks! http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Main_page_code_problem AlexShepherd 04:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Code added. Give it another shot. 04:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The Common.css requires further customization, or it'll interfere with the current Monaco skin. I'm going tto clear the Common.css page until I can figure out how to customize it to better effect. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  05:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey Alex, I was wondering if you think we should set about making the front page a little more interesting for wide screen monitors? I've noticed a lot of Wikis setting it up so that the main stuff is centered, with enough imagery on the sides for people like me who have 23 inch monitors. =P They look like they're designed to look normal for people with square monitors, but expand when viewed in wide screen. A good example is over at the Alan Wake Wiki. Right now, everything looks really stretched for me, which isn't really a bad thing, it just looks like we could really do something interesting. -- Faded-Myth  Discuss   My Workload  03:49, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh boy! How I do miss homework! Sure, I'll look into it. Don't have a clue right now but I'll have a snoop around.  Faded-Myth  Discuss   My Workload  18:35, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Daww
You used my banner! Daww. --Faded-Myth 10:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey! Nice SH1 Character banner! =D Just spotted it. --Faded-Myth 18:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks bunches! But I actually didn't make it, it's official artwork. =P You just gave me the idea to make ones for the other games though! AlexShepherd 19:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Only if I don't beat you to the punch! ;) --Faded-Myth 19:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you want to make one for SH2 while I make one for SH3? Since SH2 has more characters and you're better than this stuff than me =P AlexShepherd 19:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Daw, I'm not better. But sure! I was gonna ask if you wanna divide the job up. I'll be happy to handle 2. --Faded-Myth 19:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops
Aha. I totally didn't notice it was you who made those two new pages, so I'll pass the credit in the correct direction this time ;) Good work on those two latest pages you made. They're interesting articles. I'll help expend that Behind the Scenes one.

Fine, but the shower part is still wrong
It's implied that the tablet represents Maria. She's the "seductress". By the way, thanks for that high quality picture of Mary. DAMN, that disease turned her into a walking corpse.
 * Well, if her father raped Angelia you could say that she unwillingly seduced him.--Painocus 21:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Huh, well that's one way to put it.


 * There's MUCH stronger evidence that the tablet is referring to Angela, not Maria- such as explaining what sin Maria committed. AlessaGillespie 08:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, nice creepy mary pic. Was that in game, because I've never seen it in Silent hill 2. I do agree that it represents angela, because it represents the sins committied by the main characters, angela, james, and fattie, I mean eddie.--Dfskelleton 16:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Cybil
The amount of red liquid Harry had in the first game was 1/3 of a bottle. In SH3, Heather only had an amount the size of a teaspoon. There is NO proof Cybil died. She just disappeared like James Sunderland. Does this look like the amount Harry had in Silent Hill, Alex?


 * Does anybody else find the above comment offensive? Xeno the Hedgehog 23:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Not really, since it's from the same guy who said offensive things to other people before. I also removed the offensive stuff. >_>
 * 97.106, there isn't proof that Cybil died, but it's a fact that if Harry did save Cybil in the amusement park, he used up all of the aglaophotis. See this and watch how Harry throws the entire bottle away (first 3 seconds). Also if I remember correctly, the entire bottle of aglaophotis disappears from the inventory once Harry uses it on Cybil, meaning if he did use it on her, he would have to find some very rare aglaophotis off eBay to save Heather. AlexShepherd 01:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

No, he does not throw away the bottle. We don't see it drop on the floor. And just because it disappeared from the inventory doesn't mean he didn't keep the bottle. You can't ignore the fact Heather only had a tiny amount left.

If it disappears from the inventory, it somewhat does. You can see it leaving his right hand and going into air (if you want to see it frame by frame). You can't just say "No, he didn't" whenever someone points something out and call them a "retard." Also, if he did keep the bottle (in the canon ending, look it up in Translated Memories), he probably wouldn't use it completely on Heather, since a few drops are all it takes (and he may have kept some for himself). Also, what if Heather accidentally lost her necklace? Then she would have no back ups. AlexShepherd 14:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to block this guy's IP address? He's basically vandlaizing pages and spouting offensive nonsense. AlessaGillespie 14:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * can you guys stop arguing on a talk page? go to the forums if you wanna argue.

Hmmm, Maybe I can find some agolaphotis on ebay, I know some people I need to drammatically throw it at XD. --Dfskelleton 16:39, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Pyramid Head
Why remove the part about "White Hunter"? I've seen the very scans that the paragraph desccribes. It takes a bit of searching to find them, but they are legitimate; and I don't normally say that about questionable images. Xeno the Hedgehog 03:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't removed, it was pushed down to the "Other Appearances" section below the Film category. --Faded-Myth 04:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto. I also added some scans to the page. =] AlexShepherd 04:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Bad edits baad
Please,please check your facts before you edit.Typing that someone has brown eye's when there is a picture where they have blue is a bad edit, and bad edits can get you banned. Yuffie2211 Hallo!Contrib.

Um its me again.Before i go to my bebo account i have one more bone to pick. Putting a like beside eyecolour isin't really something you should do. Yuffie2211 Hallo!Contrib.


 * I have yet to see a wiki rule stating that it's unacceptable to put a link next to eyecolor and, since there was controversy over the color, I agree with AlexShepherd. AlessaGillespie 00:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, her eyes are not blue; they are brown with a slight shade of green. Download the picture, enlarge it and you'll see so yourself. --Painocus 00:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, bad edits alone don't get you banned. Bad edits, and then constantly replacing anyone else's edits repeatedly with your opinion and insulting people will get you banned. Even if Alex had been wrong about eye color, it wouldn't be enough to ban him for a simple mistake. --Faded-Myth 11:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Missing links
Thanks for readding the links on Henry's page, I'll be working on readding them on the other pages. When I reverted the massive amount of vandalism from the 158 IP, I forgot to add the links. Sorry! AlessaGillespie 00:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a pretty cool little tip, thanks! I was pulling up an old version of the page in a second window and copy/pasting. I left a note for TheGoodman about this guy. He made 19 vandalism edits in total. :/ AlessaGillespie 00:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Monaco Coding
Looks like you have some above-average experience with Wikia coding. Any familiarity with coding Monaco? --TheGoodman 11:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, no biggie. Gives me something new to occupy my time with! If you'd like, feel free to work up some images we can use for a future Darkness-type skin. You seem to have a strong idea in mind for how you'd like it to look. --TheGoodman 13:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You have no idea how well the new logo meshes with the color scheme I'm working on. --TheGoodman 12:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

St. Jerome hospital
I must ask, becasue it's my article. Why do you want to St. Jerome's Hospital to be deleted? I already found another St. Jerome's Hospital article, but I think my is better. Please consider it.
 * You can't make an entire new article because you don't like the one that's already there. You simply edit the one that was made first. AlessaGillespie 00:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, then. So I try to edit the original. I just created article before I found out that another exists (it was on wanted list).

Spotlight!
I've gone ahead an entered a Spotlight request. Now we play the waiting game. (which I've never been very good at...) 01:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC) (ain't I just fancy?)

Holy crap!
Where did you find the young Eileen interacting with Walter picture?! It's AMAZING 8D

050294 21:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It IS amazing, aint it? :D Anyways, I've been busy for a while. Nice to see ya ;P

Costumes
Hey, uhh, I made a separate page for Heather's costume without realizing it was in the secrets and unlockables page. BUT I made sure to add more info and organize it a bit more. Um, should I just scrap it?-- 22:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a bunch! I felt real silly after writing all that and finding out it's already been said. -- 00:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It's not true!
"My name isn't really Alex Shepherd isn't really Alex Shepherd Alex Shepherd Shepherd…Shepherd…Shepherd…" Oh the humanity! Also, sheep. --Henry-Townshend 15:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now what would ever make you think that I'm lying about something like that good sir? --Henry-Townshend 16:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I proudly admit that my real name is Alessa Gillespie and that I have an unhealthy affinity for barbed wire.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  04:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I would tell you my name, but then i'd have to make the kid from the ring come out of your computer. Ok, so I cant, but my enitials are encoded in mai username in an obliviously obvious way. Oh, and who doesn't like barbed wire? I prefer giant knives and spears though. And cool pyramid helmets.--Dfskelleton 16:44, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Drugs
What 'doesn't drug trafficking have to do with this? Frankly I think the entire Silent Hill series can be explained by one thing, everyone is taking Kauffman's White Claudia drugs. "Hey wanna help me look for my dead wife, maaaaaaan?" "S-s-sure, huhuhuh, but first we have to find this girl I never met... let's go through the strip club!" As for the broken radio... --Henry-Townshend 14:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

That actually makes a lot of sense. Lol, I always did laugh when james said "have u seen mah wife? she's dead." and pyramid head is lookin at him like O_o.--Dfskelleton 16:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fanart
I'm loving this. Where'd you get the first picture from? --Henry-Townshend 05:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's really awesome. :P I can't remember where I found the first picture though unfortunately, but if you type "Silent Hill" into deviantART, you'll find lots and lots of impressive artwork. AlexShepherd 02:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Alex
Can I get you to help me with something if you're around? I've been tinkering with stuff over at the Avatar Wiki (Era icons and such), and I createda bunch of icons to be used for a Content Box on the main page. Unfortunately I can't seem to get it to sit there without pushing the right-hand news box around, (it overlaps the content box and other things) Any chance you can have a look see, see what I was doing wrong? You can find the main page here, and the content box template here. Cheers. -- Faded-Myth  Discuss   My Workload  04:59, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, we fixed it! =P -- Faded-Myth  Discuss   My Workload  05:36, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Good to hear! I see what you meant. Those are some nice icons by the way. =] AlexShepherd 04:23, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you muchly! Actually the issue is still ongoing. I think it has to do with the images going beyond the size of the page or something. I shrunk them from 70px x 70px to 60px x 60px, but still no luck. Bugger. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  05:23, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * I worked on the main page a little bit and the main change I did was separate the Content Box from the Featured Article template, so there's the Content Box template and FA template now. Here's a screencap of what the main page looks like on my computer (I use Firefox because templates seem to have more compatibility with it) Is the problem solved? If not, could you screencap the main page it and show it to me? I'm a little tired right now since I was working on the wiki for about an hour and a half. x_x AlexShepherd 08:37, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Arg. Unfortunately the owner of the Wiki undid your edits, so I didn't get to see it. I think he thought you were a vandal or something. I sent him an email explaining what you did was for the benefit of the Wiki. If what you did worked, then I'd be super happy because it was a frigging pain in the ass trying to resolve it. If he's happy to let us continue, I'll unprotect the page and reinstate your edits. Really sorry about that. =< --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  18:09, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * -Bangs head on wall- In the words of Heather: Aw hell. D:
 * That was kind of rude... He probably felt offended that some guy he didn't know would go on to the Wiki and fiddle with the main templates without his permission (or something like that). Thanks for sending him the mail. At least we're onto something. AlexShepherd 20:33, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * No, not at all. I deleted the edits because it was still overlapped, I didn't meant to offend you, sorry if i did :P Well, it doesn't matter know, the main page has been changed dramatically. Thanks, anyway! --<font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Shadow Na'vi <font face="Arial" size="2"> Talk   My Workload  00:56, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Moawr!
Good day, kind sir. I am writing to you on behalf of myself, in which I request MOARW HELP! :P OK, so on my brand new Shenmue Wiki, I'm having a devil of a time figuring out how to customize the little icon to the left of the browser search bar (like how we have a little SH instead of the default "W" icon. Any idea how I can change this? THANK YOU AND GOOD DAY. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  20:50, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, unrelated to Faded-Myth's request for help, I've upgraded you to admin, to help out in my extended absence. Hope ya don't mind...it was FM's idea...IT'S HIS FAULT!! -- 21:49, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Everyone blames me for everything. *Sniff*. Also, congratulations Alex, your tireless efforts over the months have not gone unnoticed. <3 --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  21:51, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, thanks so much guys! :D I appreciate it so much (made my weekend) I've had a really good time working and talking with you two. TheGoodman, are you kidding? Of course I don't mind. =P I'll check in often to make sure that the wiki is in top condition. Once Shattered Memories comes out (huh, 16 days?!), you can expect to me to add new articles and edit nonstop for at least another 2 months. FadedMyth, I know how to change the favicon, give me a sec while I go get some stuff prepared first... ^^ AlexShepherd 00:25, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll be editing like crazy myself when SM comes out. I'm really looking forward to it! Thanks heaps for the help with the favicon, man. Much appreciated! --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  00:48, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats Alex! =+) <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  06:50, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much Jillian. =) AlexShepherd 01:42, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Uhmm... A little help?
uhm,hey.. could you help me on something? i've finished playing silent hill 2 a long time ago.i was a sophomore in high school then(i'm a sophomore in college now.). and just the other day, i dug up my silent hill 2 game from my old closet(and it brought back memories.sob.). i played right away and finished it thrice. i tried to see if i could get three diffrent endings, but i didnt. i got two leave endings and on the third try, i got so frustrated that i just did the rebirth ending. i cant get any other ending. i'd really appreciate it if u help me.:) thanks!!!--Blademaster Heraclea 09:20, November 26, 2009 (UTC)altaecia16

uhh... another help?...
how do i add a message or leave a comment on someone's talk page? sorry if i have so many questions.;p--Blademaster Heraclea 05:06, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

You became an administrator?
Congratulations, I guess. I never thought I'd see the day.
 * What a world, huh? AlexShepherd 03:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Next v...
Next vandal - South park XD. I reverted all of his doing, and I'm going to sleep now, so I hope he doesn't do that again. Final Blaster 02:41, November 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * Good to hear (he's now banned.) Anyway, g'night! AlexShepherd 03:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

OST
Aw man, I had been working on these offline. Curse your effectiveness Alex! Curse yooooou! --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  14:37, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Congradulations administrator!
I felt like saying congratulations on your promotion as administrator! You are really nice, you deserve it! --X♛ΩHeatherMasonΩ♛X 12:26, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

hey,admin...:)
congratulations!i forgot about that. but could u help me one more time?ryt now,im having trouble with the flauros.i cant get it done!i cant fix it!ive been at it for almost an hour,but i cant fix it!is der a pattern as to how to ratate it? but how?is there a pattern on it?

About the article Psych Profile
uhm...im kinda interested about it. do u plan to continue working on it? as much as i would like to work on it and continue the article and help everyone here,i cant because i dnt have a Wii. please please please?

About the article Psych Profile
uhm...im kinda interested about it. do u plan to continue working on it? as much as i would like to work on it and continue the article and help everyone here,i cant because i dnt have a Wii. please please please?Blademaster Heraclea 09:13, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

About the article Psych Profile
uhm...im kinda interested about it. do u plan to continue working on it? as much as i would like to work on it and continue the article and help everyone here,i cant because i dnt have a Wii. please please please?Blademaster Heraclea 09:14, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Psych Profile(again)
wow,that's great for an admin.thanks a lot!u deserve ur spot.:]

ummm... shattered memories is gonna be released on the PS2?!is that true?!

thank you (:
Thanks for the welcome :D Unfortunately I am new to all forms of Wiki and I have no idea how to get my post in the puzzle section -____- I've been wanting to get in on the silenthillwikia thing for a while and now that I have Shattered Memories I can start sharing my knowledge :p But if you could tell me how to categorize my post that would be awesome. :D Thanks -G

Awesome (: Thanks a lot

I Got None
admin alexshepherd,i dont have a Wii.why do you ask?
 * uhm...i'm hoping to get shattered memories on the PS2. oh, scratch that. I INTEND TO.:) a Wii costs a couple hundred dollars? that's about ten dollars in my country! plus, i'm not a fan of the Wii. i still prefer my PS2 and my PS3.:) and finally i got trhough the flauros thing. BY CHANCE.

Thanks!!
Hello! Thanks for the warm welcome. I look forward to learn even more great things from the site and to contribute in any way that I can. --Frugs! 04:12, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Pyramid Head
Hey Alex Shepard, U posted the message about me editing the PH page right? Well I'd just like to know if what i wrote makes any sense to you. Its in the trivia section, last post in it.

Squishymcd 19:02, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Apology
Oh sorry i didnt know it was an automated message. :P Im new to the site!

Well, I'm the one that originally put the "Angela in the hotel" theory in regards to the Abstract Daddy monsters.
I'm surprised that you think it makes sense though. Thanks, I guess. And you have an interesting avatar. Is your hair blonde?


 * It makes a lot of sense! Angela in hotel = Angela's monsters in hotel. You're welcome, I guess. It's not often I hear something that nice from you. My avatar is Heather from haikuninja's Silent Hill Defense Force as she's one of my favorite SH characters. I'm a fan of cartoon and anime drawing, so I immediately liked it. In real life, my hair isn't blonde, it's black. AlexShepherd 12:07, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

No need to create a "manifestation" article.
But yeah, Shattered Memories did confuse me in regards to the Sleaze and Siren ending and i nregards to the multiple Dahlias that appear. I thought the old version was the real Dahlia. I was wrong. Sue me. As for SH1's Lisa and Shattered Memories' Harry, I wouldn't say they were total manifestations. They weren't ghosts but they also weren't hallucinations. They kinda came back from the dead. --Splatterhouse50 12:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that depends!
If the Sleaze and Siren ending is canon, than Lisa and Michelle are definitely delusions. If not, than they are real people. I believe the latter. As for Harry, I assumed that he came back from the dead because Cheryl said "you were with me for so long" and Harry said "I always will be". I'm an idiot. Thanks for being friendly despite my mistakes. Splatterhouse50 02:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Poll
Is there a way to see who voted for what on the poll? I can bet money that the poll's going to get a whole bunch of No votes from one person with multiple usernames, so I want to make sure it's fair. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  14:38, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Lisa's Face
A quick question, where did you find that image of Lisa's face? (Shattered Memories version) Androidhell 19:27, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Cute Avatar :)
actually....i have 360, ps2 and wii but i cant find the games :(( Angelicwitch93 02:06, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * pokes admin* ello, semi new here, I havent got any of the games yet, but I've obsessively read the wiki enough to actually help out, mainly with links and typos, any other suggestions to help out? Angelicwitch93 18:18, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Just wanted to say a quick hello. :)
Hi there. :D It's great to meet another fan of the games. I'm Lex, by the way. :) Just dropping by to say hello!

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Thanks! :) Yes, I do cosplay very often, it's one of my hobbies.

Hey I made a Silent Hill:Shattered memories video explaining things from the game :)!
Hey I'm pretty new to this site so I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. I think this is like a comment :p. Anyway.....I made a video about Silent Hill Shattered memories :) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnxD54LLimE

You can watch it if you want. It explains the mementos, endings, psyche profile, etc.

Have a great day :)! I'm glad you keep up with a lot of editing on the silent hill section. I'm a huge SH fan too.

More SH videos
Thanks!! I'm glad you liked it :) there was a part 2 to it and I had to split it up b/c youtube didn't allow videos longer than 10 minutes. I'll probably make more SH videos, but I don't know what it would be about yet. SH2 was my favorite out of all of them (isn't it everyone's favorite?) so I might make a video about that.

You are mistaken in regards to Cheryl's birthday
The picture clearly shows that Cheryl was born on 17/7/1983. Not 7/7/1983. Please fix that. BigPyramidHead77 13:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Image widget (or w/e it's called)
Hey, I know I haven't been editing lately but I wanna get back to it a little more, however...

When I'm using the editing interface, the "add image" and "add video" functions don't work; they're just useless buttons. I checked other wikis and I don't get the same problem. I know I can add images by finding them through the search and just entering them manually, but that gets hard when I need to add a lot or when I don't know a certain image has already been uploaded. I wanted to know if it's just me experiencing this problem and if there's something I can to do fix it. Thanks for all the help. -- 23:33, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, your skills are a god/goddess-send. -- 05:17, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Description
Hi Alex. I noticed that the Silent Hill Wiki didn't have a customized MediaWiki:Description, which provides metadata information, so I just edited it. Feel free to tweak it as you see fit. JoePlay ( talk ) 18:53, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well...
I think I could find something around the Web. If I do, then next time you check the Rose Da Silva page, you'll have my confirmation. But I'm not promising anything, I'm afraid. It was out of pure luck that I found Walter's voice actor. User: Knowall - April 5, 2010 19:07

Woo back
Just letting you know I'm back from my extended leave of absence. Yeehaw. <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  07:07, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hah! I wish I was on vacation. Been quite busy mostly. My brother's getting married this week, I've started a new large-scale art project, I'm looking into booking both a place in an art college and joining a theater, and I started a new job recently as a game tester, so that's been eating up my time in the day. I used to be able to check the Wiki at least once a day on my phone at my last job, but I don't really use my phone at work now so I've had to check in over the evenings, by which point I'm usually busy with art or watching a movie. But now that I'm settling in to my new routine I'm getting back into the swing of keeping up with a bunch of stuff I've had to sideline, including this place! I noticed you and Alessa have been pretty busy while I've been gone. Thanks for keeping up with the maintenance!

And hah, homework. I like homework when it's a subject matter I enjoy. Not so much if it's something I hate. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  05:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately my new job would only mean I'd be able to take about 9 days off, and 2 or 3 days would include flying back to Australia, so I'm going to miss it. I recorded a video speech thingy though for the DJ to play, and I picked a couple of songs for them to play "in my honor" so to speak. I'm sure there'll be buttloads of video and photos at least, but it's certainly a shame having to miss my brother's wedding. Our cousin's gonna be the Best Man in my absence.

As for the art, I'm working on a Victorian-era style scene. Mostly just renders for now, but I'm looking forward to doing something typically gloomy but with a slightly humerus bent to it. My latest stuff has all been rather bleak, so I thought it was time for a change. Glad you like my stuff, I look forward to seeing your scan! --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  01:23, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nintendo actually. (Can't say I like Rockstar games all that much. Not my thang.) I can't say much obviously, but I enjoy it. Not my career goal, since it's just general game testing, but it sure beats serving customers. And it's a great work environment.

Also, silly boy. Of course I have Shattered Memories. :) Played it to death the moment it came out. Was playing it just the other day actually. It's easily my second favorite SH title next to SH2. Very well crafted.

Being British myself, I've a natural affiliation for British black comedies. The Black Adder series are the best. Seasons 2 and 3 especially. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  04:36, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Just saying thanks for keeping up with the admin duties while I've been gone. And the Sh4 era icon looks neato! Nice work. =) <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  06:14, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I graduated high school in 2000, so that's going back a fair ways! But yes, I did art and mechanical design in high school. After that I took a 3D modeling and animation class at college learning Alias (now Autodesk) Maya, and taught there for a brief while too. For the most part I'm self taught though. Just knuckled down and learned Photoshop and Maya on my own. Always practice, practice PRACTICE! Good to see you getting into graphic design, it's a lot of fun. Photoshop's a great tool, though admittedly for painting I've started using Corel Painter, because it's amazing for getting real-media looking paintings. PS remains my favorite for graphic design though. <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  22:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

New Silent Hill Game
I take it you've probably seen the news regarding the new Silent Hill game? Not much to go on other than that apparently in the teaser trailer there's a blonde headed male. My first hopes were that it's James and that it's a re-imagining of SH2, but apparently it's suggested (though not confirmed) that a new developer, not Climax, doing the game, which has me a little nervous (and very perplexed as to why Konami wouldn't pick up Climax again after the great job they did with Shattered Memories). I guess we'll find out. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  00:44, April 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's Japanese (and also the guy who broke the news to me about a new game), and he actually said he has the same sentiment as me that the whole notion that only Japanese developers can create creepy, original horror is ridiculous. (He actually finds Western developers to create more personal-oriented games wheras Japanese developers too often focus on the overall spectacle). Western developers can do just as good, it just depends on the talent. Hell, take H.P Lovecraft, or Francis Bacon, the latter being what some of the monsters in Silent Hill 2 are influenced by, and they're considered amongst the creepiest monsters in the series. (The Lying Figure being a great example). It just depends on the development team. Konami have been apparently quite eager to mention specifically that this isn't being developed by Double Helix, which tells me that they have an interest in making sure this game doesn't get butchered. I wouldn't imagine they would do that only to palm it off to some newbies. And even if the company itself is possibly new, the artists themselves might be veterans who have banded together to form a studio. But this is all rampant speculation. Don'tcha just love this part of the production pipeline? =P --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"><font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss  <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> My Workload  06:18, April 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * <font face="Segoe UI" size="3">I'm still opposed to that notion, since like I said there's a great deal of western influences in those games. Resident Evil has always harkened back to American zombie movies like Dawn of the Dead and Evil Dead, two of the most prominent western horror movies known to man. Yes, Japanese horrors have a distinct cultural style that is viscerally creepy, but it's not difficult for any intelligent team of artists who like horror to research that style and come up with themes based on those values. I think a lot of game companies are simply either lazy or have a different agenda, the latter which isn't a bad thing necessarily.

<font face="Segoe UI" size="3">I do however share your concern as to their resume doesn't exactly inspire confidence, but I'm more than willing to give them the benefit if the doubt, as I did Climax. When we get new pictures and video, then I'll make my judgement. For all we know, the team could have a deep appreciation for the series. Look at Hulett's team and Konami itself. They've worked on a variety of different types of games that range from platformers to Silent Hill. And yet Shattered Memories didn't become another Contra. I did, however, find the Sims footage hilarious. I actually made a Sim Harry for Sims 3. You can see it in my blog thingy. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  14:32, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hey no offense but...
The gallery image of alessa gillespie, thats not rare concept art. its actually a famous painting called "Christinas World" By Andrew Wyerth. The painting was made in 1948... So it has nothing to do with Silent Hill. Thats why I keep deleting it.


 * No, thank you for the info! I've never heard of the painting before. The painting was apparently featured in the Silent Hill movie, thus I found it on a Silent Hill fansite not knowing the origins of it. I assumed it was concept art because the girl lying down on the field resembled Alessa and the house in the distance is eerily identical to the Gillespie House. Please post why you're removing something in the edit summary when someone disagrees so that it doesn't become an unnecessary edit war. AlexShepherd 16:01, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. i will post the info next time so no edit war occurs!
 * Thanks. i will post the info next time so no edit war occurs!

Apologies...
Hey Alex!

Recently, I did a bit of a back and forth with you on the Maria article regarding a theory I had, and I just wanted to apologize for my behavior. At one point for me it became more about making a point, and less about adding more information to the article. I recently reposted the same theory amended to match your criticism, and will delete it if you find it still unsuitable. I look forward to contributing to this site more, and would hate to have anyone angry at me over any misunderstanding,

Sincerely,

CheshireStray


 * It's totally fine and I don't mind it. No need to be so formal either! ^-^ AlexShepherd 03:05, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me...
Or does the trailer to the next SH look extremely exciting? What concerns I had for the production team (if they are as obscure as originally thought) not being able to pull off the material well are pretty much gone. The town looks fantastic. Like, actually abandoned, not just empty. And when I see the scene at the end where he shoots that "monster", it makes me think of Vincent's quote in SH3, "They look like monsters to you?" I wonder if this is a literal adaptation of that perspective, or just coy editing on the teaser's part. Either way, I'm excited. I wasn't expecting news till the end of E3. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  02:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I kind of like his design myself. I do see...dare I say it...shades of James in his appearance, though at the same time he has his own unique look. Though he could do with a good jacket. ;) But Henry got away with it, so... As for the story, it's possible (and quite likely) that not all is what it seems. He might not actually be as criminalistic as he's made out to be. And if he is, it's nice to have something different to the usual "deranged/depressed/creepy loner" personality, though for obvious reasons they're pretty much the best suited for the series. =P An actual criminal would bring a lot of interesting themes to the game. And yeah, E3 was quite exciting this year. Lots of fun games this year. <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  00:42, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

This...
Is a very nice looking Wiki. I'm going to spend some time working on some designs, see if I can cime up with a sleeker look to our Main Page. I think what we have is awesome, but I'm going to see if I can work out some kind of widescreen look. <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  06:21, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

silent hill timeline
just so you know i figured out the silent hill time line(meaning i figured when most of the silent hill games take place)

1988 is the most logical time when silent hill takes place the proof is not concriet but alot of evidence to say it was in the 80s one clothing particularly Lisa Garland Nurse Outfitt you notice that its more or less dress with white stockings. this was the standred nurses uniform until the early 1990's when it changed to the regular scrubs(by the feminist movement). another particular things is silent hill 3. it takes 17 years after silent hill 1 making the year 2005 if the game took place in 90's that would complicate the silent hill story(even for silent hill) as the developer would have to throw the story waaay in the future thats 2005 is better place to have take cause it isnt to far forward. konami game maker tend to make there games take place in the future but not overly in the future only one or two year but there are some exeptions of course(capcom also does this)Note: this changed when technogy got better and alllowed more definitive with there release dates. either or that in the past like the 80' or 60's but since in origins it state that Richard Grady hung himself in 1961 Travis was 10 at that time the proof that he was ten is the he was the right right height plus he his voice high and didnt crack meaning he hadnt puberty. also making silent hill origins taking place in 1981 as travis was most likely 30 and if it Origins took place in the 90's he'd in his 40's and would have shown more age both in his face and voice. i may come really sure of myself in my first comment (Sorry for that) i have no physical proof to back this claim up but silent hill taking place in late 80's makes the most sense even if this paragraph didnt. but sure if look close enough in silent hill you can see the proof youself like i did. anyway i havent changed anything regarding the timeline so you dont have to worry about that. im just stating what i think is accurate and if you dont think it accurate then hey no harm done since nothing was changed. hope this makes senseMister 83 02:48, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

oh yeah i played through origins recently and found out that Helen Grady tried to Kill travis was on November 4 1959. you find a police report in cedar grove sanitarium to prove it.Mister 83 06:06, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shattered memories Voice Actors
Karen Strassmann voiced Both Lisa Garland and Cheryl Heather Mason(though she only got credited for Lisa)trust me i know her voice. and John was Voiced by Yuri Lowenthal(check IMDB) im still trying to determine harry, and michelle voice

Mary and Brookhaven
I don't know if you've read the adversary's post on Mary staying at Brookhaven on SHH, but there are fairly good reasons why some people believe she stayed there. I certainly don't consider the people who follow this theory to be 'whackjobs' in the least. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  06:56, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean wackjobs literally, I just meant it in a "now THATS absurd." way. aka, they're really weird people, not that they're idiots or morons (I never hate like that. Never.)
 * I personally think the theory is pretty well founded, and I don't consider myself 'weird', nor do I think it's fair to label the people who do agree with the theory as such either.
 * Anyway, I read the actual essay on SHH, but found a lot of the reasons nonsense. Like, the one such as Maria is facing in the opposite way on the first floor, or the glass crashing sound being Mary dropping a vase, which I think is ridiculous because it's very exaggerated and is only meant to scare you.
 * Do you know for a fact that it's only meant to scare the player? Unless someone directly involved with the game's creation says so, there's still the possibility that it does mean something.
 * Then there is the diary on the roof which people claim to be Mary's, but it makes no sense as Mary doesn't have a "family" to feed.
 * The line about the family was never part of the original script, so it's nothing more than a mistranslation.
 * The biggest point against Mary staying in Brookhaven is that she wanted to go to Silent Hill again one day, but she never did.
 * Mary says they never went to Silent Hill, which is true, because she would have gone to Brookhaven alone.
 * Besides, it seems Mary and James live far away from Silent Hill and for Mary to go all the way to Silent Hill, a resort town, rather than a hospital near her area is absurd.
 * It's most likely they lived in South Ashfield (seeing as Frank Sunderland lives there), and if it's easy enough for Walter Sullivan to travel back and forth, I don't see why it would be such an issue if Mary really wanted to go to Silent Hill and it was agreed she could spend her last week of hospitalization there. It's not like they were continuously carting her back and forth from S. Ashfield and Silent Hill every day.
 * And Brookhaven is a mental hospital, and I doubt that Mary would stay there. Sure, Mary is angsty and depressed, but for her to stay in a place with lunatics, serial killers, and hostile people is strange.
 * You're running off of an untrue stereotype, that mental hospitals are only for the violent and seriously insane. Mental hospitals are also for those who are depressed and even drug addicts, none of whom are necessarily violent. As The Adversary pointed out in his essay, that's why there's such low security on the first floor.
 * There's more evidence to her staying in St. Jerome's, due to the fact it's where James' father and her nurse, Rachel, are.
 * No one ever said she didn't stay at St. Jerome's, just that she spent the last week of her life in Brookhaven due to requesting it. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:51, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * -sigh- You took that wackjob comment way too seriously...
 * You used an insulting remark to refer to anyone who disagreed with your viewpoint on a particular theory. Name-calling isn't a good way to disagree with something.
 * back on topic, the reason I find the theory weird is because it's pretty much 99% speculation (very exaggerated imo), and there's a lot of implications and reasoning shown in the game that go against it. The original theory poster said that Mary's Japanese letter stated "I will be in another hospital", which I believe is untrue and uncertified.
 * That's not true. The original text said 'I won't be in this hospital anymore.' The translation is here.
 * I never said that mental hospitals are only for the violent and seriously insane. Brookhaven, specifically, is shown in the series to be a place full of lunatics, serial killers and hostile people. I'm not stereotyping, but in Brookhaven's case, the stereotype is definitely true. Hence why I doubt Mary would stay there.
 * Then why is there no security on the first floor? If every patient there was exactly as you say they are, then there would be heavy security on the first floor, as with the second and third. But there isn't. All 3 known lunatics kept at Brookhaven were confined to floors 2 and 3, and no trace of them or anyone like them can be found beneath that level.
 * I don't find any logic in "I'm terminally ill and depressed. Instead of talking to Laura and helping to ease my pain, I'll go to Brookhaven which is miles away, and is also full of hostile, insane, and mentally ill people. Instead of being with my family during my last week alive, I'd rather be alone in an insane asylum. My depression is so important that I must go to Brookhaven, even though I only have a week left to live." It's impossible for me to imagine Mary being driven to Silent Hill which is miles away by ambulance, just to treat a depression in a dangerous and hostile environment, despite having only a week left to live... The game puts a lot of emphasis on having Mary being a sympathetic character, due to never having gone back to Silent Hill.
 * Mary had made it clear she wanted to go to Silent Hill, so why would it be so difficult for her to be taken there? As the first floor proves, Brookhaven is not only for lunatics and violent people, and Mary would not have been in any danger. She was suffering severe depression, so she needed help - why not send her to Silent Hill, where she could be in the place she loved and receiving treatment for her mental illness? It's not like James visited her anyway. In the last days of Mary's life, she was then released and handed over to James, who ironically probably killed her in Silent Hill.
 * To me, believing that Mary stayed in Brookhaven is like believing Eddie visited Lakeside Amusement Park as a child or something. Believing something without cold, hard evidence. If Team Silent wanted us to think Mary stayed in Brookhaven, they would leave a lot more evidence than a non-suggestive crashing sound and Maria facing the opposite direction on the first floor.
 * But there are other points, such as the hospital diary, the room with teddy bears, the shift to the Otherworld in the hospital. You don't know whether Team Silent planned Mary to stay at Brookhaven or not, since there is evidence she very well may have. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  22:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think it matters where the lunatics are located since "Insane asylum" is basically Brookhaven's rep as a whole.
 * That's your personal interpretation of Brookhaven. As I have pointed out, there's strong evidence that they also kept non-violent patients. In keeping with normal mental hospitals, this would include those in danger of suicide. Unless you're suggesting that the entire first floor was unused (which would be a massive waste of money), Brookhaven did in fact have non-violent patients.
 * The original poster tried to argue that Mary was mentally ill, which I totally disagree with on so many levels. Being depressed when you're going to die doesn't mean you're "mentally ill." Mary was sane and reasonable in the sense that you could have a decent conversation with her.

Mary lashed out at James, and expressed her wish to die several times. That counts as suicidal depression, which is often treated at mental hospitals.
 * Having a conversation with a Brookhaven patient would be something like "TuRN Turn TURN THE NUMBERS!! Who is I am Is a am am Is who I am. CHA CHA CHA." Mary in no way fits the Brookhaven category, and Brookhaven is definitely not her place.
 * Personal interpretation. You can't prove all Brookhaven patients were like that.
 * Yes, Mary did want to go to Silent Hill, but with James. I doubt Mary would go to Silent Hill without James -- it wasn't 'her' special place, it was 'their' special place. Driving Mary to Silent Hill isn't difficult, it's just very tedious and unnecessary considering her circumstances.
 * Again, that's your personal viewpoint. You don't know if Mary wanted to go to the town alone or not. You also don't know how tedious the hospital would have considered it to drive her there, or if her doctors agreed with your viewpoint that it was unnecessary.
 * Huh, what?! You said James probably killed her in Silent Hill? That is factually untrue as James and Mary don't live in Silent Hill. James killed Mary in their home. He then took Mary's body in his trunk, and drove to Silent Hill (according to Lost Memories).
 * That was my mistake. You are correct.
 * The thought of Mary going to Silent Hill just reeks of unwarranted self importance, and seems very OOC. "Let's spend a week in Silent Hill without James, have doctors arrange and plan for me to be there, even though I only have a week to live, because I really am that important."
 * You don't know that it was even Mary's idea. Maybe she talked about it so much, the doctors took pity on her and agreed to it. Maybe not. It's not like something similar has never happened (like complete strangers pitching in money for a dying child to meet a celebrity).
 * Mary going to Silent Hill during her last week alive is also a plot discrepancy because James killed her in their home. According to the theory, Mary would also then have to be driven all the way back to her house, where James is. You don't snap and kill someone from nursing them when they're going to die in under a week. Mary would have had to stay at their house for a while, but less than a week doesn't cut it.
 * Again, that's personal interpretation. You can't prove that James didn't kill Mary when she had only a few days left, nor can you factually state that no one has ever killed someone with such a short time to live.
 * The hospital diary: most likely a figment of James' imagination, his inner suicidal thoughts. Examining it increases the chance of the In Water ending. People are assuming that the diary is actually real in the first place and that someone actually wrote it, and that it's not just another delusion, such as James' blank letter. It is well known that Silent Hill leaves things behind for its victims, such as the pizza and football posters for Eddie, the newspaper and cylinder pump room for Angela... all the monsters, and more. It does it in the same way Room 1408 left behind that noose to the main character to commit suicide.
 * More personal interpretation.
 * The room with teddy bears: See above. Silent Hill merely placed them in there for Laura.
 * Personal interpretation.
 * Why Laura entered the hospital: Laura is playful and bratty, and most likely wanted to play hide and seek with James. She also set up the trap room, hence she knew (and was hoping) that James was going to follow her in. She entered the hospital to play with James, and for her own curiosity. She wanted to lure James into the hospital for some fun.
 * Laura went to Silent Hill to look for Mary. How do you know she didn't go into the hospital because she thought Mary was there?
 * The shift to the Otherworld in the hospital: James is on the gurney, not Mary, which is why we see him appear to get up, and why we see the first person view in the locked room look at the ceiling. "Mary" is helping James, in the same way the dead mother helps her son get out of the basement in the movie 'the 13 Ghosts'. It's not a "past memory" of Mary's or anything.
 * The point is that the Otherside only appears twice: once at Brookhaven, once at the hotel. The fact that James sees such a close version of what Mary went through and that the Otherside only ever appears in the only other place Mary was known to have stayed, could suggest it's telling the player she stayed at Brookhaven. Of course, it's not provable. It's just an interpretation.
 * Maria facing the other way: You meet Maria in the basement storeroom, and then do stuff on the 2nd and 3rd floor (where the refrigerator, Lady door, and riddle box are). It seems reasonable because there's no point in having an NPC face the correct direction when the player never has to go there again. If you use the Maria hack to skip the hospital, she's facing the other direction in a lot of other rooms in Toluca Prison, the Labryinth, Lakeview Hotel, etc.
 * Again, that's your interpretation of why she's turned in a different direction. For all we know, Team Silent may have been trying to give players a clue.
 * Crashing sound: Only there to scare you, like many other noises in the series.
 * Personal interpretation.
 * I don't know for sure, but I am 99.9% positive Team Silent never intended Mary staying at Brookhaven. The absurdity of the concept puts me off...
 * But you can't prove for sure she never stayed there. My point was not to convince you to change your mind, but to point out that your comment was rude and uncalled for (whether you realized it or not). There are a lot of theories about the games and movie I find absurd but, on here at least, I refrain from making statements about other people and their opinions that could be interpreted as demeaning (unless they're rude to me first, in which case they totally deserve it). <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:54, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * About the first floor, it's pretty evident that it was mainly used for administration, and for other purposes such as a cafeteria, bathrooms, etc. There are only 4 patient rooms on the first floor. In SH2, the first floor hallway to the rooms was locked and in SH3, one of the patients in C4 was mentally ill as they kept gluing random stuff onto a wall. Non-violent.... yet with some insanity. My point is that Mary wasn't insane or Brookhaven-type mentally ill, and doesn't need the Brookhaven treatment.
 * But it still can't be proven that Brookhaven didn't take depressed people. Even if there's only one room on the first floor, there's still a possibility Mary stayed there.


 * Mary didn't truly want to die. Deep down, she truly wanted to live, but the disease tore her down. Even after she said "Maybe they'd be better off if they killed me", she said "Wait, James! I didn't mean what I said! Please don't go." All of Mary's "suicidal" quotes in the original theory are either from the diary, which I beg to differ isn't Mary's in the first place, or from the hotel conversation. And she said she "didn't mean what she said" at the end of the hotel conversation.
 * Suicidal threats, even if they're taken back, still count as depression. For example, I knew a girl who said she wanted to die twice, but then took it back both times for different reasons (one time because her boyfriend made her), but she went on to really try to kill herself. Even if it's taken back, the fact that the person can rile themselves into a state like that is seen as a warning of depression. Mary's anger also points to depression, which generally cycles between hating oneself and hating the world.
 * I just see the whole theory relying on unlikely and unrealistic reasoning, no matter how it's put... If I said, "Although it's not as weird as the Mary staying in Brookhaven theory in my opinion", would that have been a lot better? I just want you to understand that I didn't intentionally want to offend anyone. I learned my lesson: be careful of what you say and don't demean people who believe in something which you strongly disagree with. I think we can both agree that it's healthy to have a good debate every once in a while?
 * I do agree with that. Debates are fine so long as no one gets rude, or denies creator quotes because they don't agree with their agenda (which personally bugs the mess out of me). I'm not sure where I stand on the Brookhaven debate, being that both sides rely on speculation, and I think both sides have good points. Now I must depart, as I'm using this as an excuse to postpone doing my paper for Film Editing class. :P <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:39, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * The girl wasn't able to succeed in killing herself that time, and I've only seen her a few times since then (she was taken out of school by her parents after her suicide attempt), so I don't know what's become of her. As for me, I'm a film student, who's hoping to go into writing and directing horror movies. Since that's going to be very hard to get into, my intent is to learn as many skills associated with films as possible, so I can get any odd job associated with a movie and rise from there. Not that it matters - every part of film, from lighting to cameras to editing, is fun. I really just love making movies, I guess. Being a photographer sounds like fun, it would be awesome to get a shoot for Discover magazine or something and get to take pictures of wildlife, I think. But that's just me being an environment/animal nut. :P What makes you like photography? <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:12, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Very cute of you to lock the Pyramid Head page!
Very nice of you to unlock the Tookie page. Anyway, since you are clearly such an expert when it comes to Silent Hill games, please answer one very important question. How the hell can you explain why the voices in the voicemails don't match the actual voices of Harry, Dahlia and Cheryl? The father that ran over the dog DEFINITELY doesn't sound like Harry. Please explain this. Sknmak 21:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, no. Actually, I just saw the protection log in the recent changes section and noticed that you locked the page. --Sknmak 12:19, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Jacob's Ladder Page
deleted, see below post plz

Someone got power Hungry!
deleted, see post below plz

cant find reference by searching jacob`s ladder in search field
deleted, see below post plz

Sorry for being rude
Bro, really i was mad, but let me be reasonable.

You deleted the Jacob`s Ladder section. First of all, you sent the reason for deleting for another member, that made a minor addition, instead of me, that created it. Ok, this is not a big of a deal.

You deleted some information that is not in the references page that you linked in the reason for deleting it. We had put more information regarding scenes of the filme, and there was much more coming. You simply deleted it considering a 2-line reference in the middle of another page would be good enough. Its not, the reference is just too big, there are many scenes that inspired the game franchise that are NOT in the page you used for excuse for deleting it. We would supply it all, with pics. And there was already an you-tube link with the best scene, that you deleted as well.

In addition, there is no search result for "Jacob's Ladder" now, and there was with our article. Many people look for it, as i did before writing the article. So basically instead of pointing the Jacob`s Ladder 2 line info in references page to a bigger page we created, you just deleted the bigger page.

So i really dont agree with what you done, and im so disapointed that any future colaboration i would do with this website, now i wont anymore.

I respect your hard work here, but you could respect others. Or you could at least respect the other users that might be interested in seeing the information that you deleted and didnt supply and equivalent.

Regards Cuzaum Oliva 14:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)Cuzaum OlivaCuzaum Oliva 14:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

LOL
Nicely played on the picture, Alex. :) <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  05:44, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hey you clown!
Thanks for keeping up with the edits while I've been AWOL. Though I'm sorry it seems you were the target of petty bitching for a little while.That's the problem with Wikis. You get new people who, as soon as a few of their edits are deleted, start spouting a bunch of self-righteous crap. Anyone who's hung around Wikis for long enough should be used to it by now. Hell, I've deleted dozens of my own pages! :Sadface: But yeah, thanks for the hard work man. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  04:28, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Where Did You Get That Audio File On Pyramid Head?
I was listening to that audio file and found it cool and I would like to know where you got it. Thank you kindly JamesSunderlandSH 16:59, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * See this.  19:14, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yyyyyeaaaaaahhh...
Deleting even unnotable pages when they are characters who exist in-universe is about as silly as the original lords and masters of Alien Species Wikia deleting Deoxys simply because it was a Pocket Monster and they thought it was stupid, despite the fact that the wiki there is intended for cataloging of alien species in media. It's highly unprofessional. Am I the only Wikia Administrator (not here certainly but on others) who notices this ridiculous trend..? You cannot call yourselves the "leading specialists on all things _______ (in your case, Silent Hill)" (which is precisely what all non-original Wikipedia sites are, after all) if you remove information. Heck, even all known deleted and conceptual material should be listed (although certainly stated as such). The proper procedure would have been to utilize or create a category for Minor Background characters or whatever. -- Somarinoa 08:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't even consider them minor background characters.... more like names to fill up a pedestal. They hold no significance, other than being sacrifices... it's like creating a page for Albert Lords, Lydia Findly, Edward C Briggs, Roberta T Morgan and Trevor F White. It's also for organization as all of Alex's ancestor's names can be already be found at Shepherd Family; it would be easier to add information there rather than creating individual one-sentence articles (and if one types an ancestor's name in the search bar, they can easily find the article). Deleting pages for unnotable characters, including one-time name mentioners, is actually a legitimate reason. If you want me to move information over to the Shepherd article, just ask and I'll do it. 10:27, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

SH1 Monsters
Hey Alex, regarding the moves you've made to the SH1 creatures, I'm pretty sure their names were correct. Those were previously mixed up for a long time, because I'm pretty sure Grey Children wasn't their name in the game. That was a movie term, I believe. What reference are you using for the moves? --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  22:34, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey Faded, I'm actually pretty sure they're wrong, or a fan misnomer. The reason I switched the names is because Translated Memories says so.  Wikipedia says "Grey Children were replaced by by Mumblers in the PAL version of the game". I'm pretty sure "Claw Finger" is totally fanmade because Translated Memories calls them Mumblers. I'm also sure that Grey Children is a movie term... though for some reason, I remember the name from before the movie came out. I'll look it up online, since their name might be in a guide somewhere. :) If I can't find anything, I don't see a problem with using the movie term either.  00:19, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting. I know that "Claw Finger" is a name from the original game's soundtrack. Maybe it's derived from that. I'm guessing it's a case of the character's not having defined names, or at least ones that didn't carry through in translation. <font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss   My Workload  22:01, August 15, 2010 (UTC)