Talk:Silent Hill Wiki/Archive 1

=June 2009=

Character Names
Does anybody else think it would be more formal and well-written to include the full names of characters in articles not about them, rather than just their first names? For example, The Lighthouse article says After reuniting inside the boathouse and hearing out Dahlia's solution, Harry and Cybil split up to find... Wouldn't it sound better to say After reuniting inside the boathouse and hearing out Dahlia Gillespie's solution, Harry and Cybil Bennett split up to find..., as Dahlia and Cybil are first introduced in the article in that sentence? AlessaGillespie 03:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Doing so in any sentence that first introduces other characters makes sense (and I thought we'd been doing so, but things can slip through the cracks). I'll add an entry into the Manual about it. If any of you folks comes across instances like AlessaGillespie did, feel free to correct. --TheGoodman 10:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Answers Wikia
Has anyone else had problems with the Answers Wikia that shows up in the sidebar? For some reason it causes my computer to freeze and creates multiple versions of the page :/ AlessaGillespie 07:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems to be working fine for me. Which internet browser do you use? Wikia seems to be kind of screwy lately... maybe its just my 512mb of ram and 1.2Ghz processor. xP What are your computer specifications? AlexShepherd 08:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Erm, I'm not very computer literate so I actually don't know. I do know that this laptop is less than two years old and the page was working fine until recently. AlessaGillespie 08:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you installed or uninstalled any programs lately? It might be causing a problem... if that's the case, go to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore, and then restore your computer to a time when the problem wasn't there (most likely a day or two?) AlexShepherd 08:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, no new programs of any kind. And I don't surf porn so I doubt I got a virus :P AlessaGillespie 08:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That widget is nifty! Did not know we had it (Sad but true, turned most of them off back when I first signed up). I've run it for a bit, and no problems other than answer pages slow to load. --TheGoodman 12:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Silent Memories Characters
I think we need to split the characters from Shattered Memories up from their original game's counterparts, much like how Transformers Wiki has separate pages for each variation of a Transformer. (For example, G1 Starscream, Animated Starscream, Bayformers Starscream, etc, which are all linked to one Disambiguation page.) My reasoning is that they are going to be really complicated characters with personalities of their own, and what's more is they are going to change depending on your actions and decisions, meaning it would look messy to cram it all at the bottom of their SH1 Character pages. I also think they deserve their own pages anyway, since they are going to have a lot of information. I'm happy to handle that, if everyone agrees. I might even work on adapting some sort of tree branch way of writing them, because again, their personalities will change. So basically at the top of Harry Mason (Silent Hill)'s page would be a link to Harry Mason (Shattered Memories). Please think about this one because I really feel it's necessary. As much as I like to think of them as two versions of the same character, from a practical standpoint they probably are best having their own pages. --Faded-Myth 08:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Seems sound to me. Unless someone can provide good reasoning to contrast, I say go for it. However, I'd suggest holding off until all available information on the characters is available. --TheGoodman 09:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I plan to. I'm going to compile information as it comes, and I'll create the page when it's ready. That is, if everyone agrees with the idea. If we do go with that, I'd like to have (Film) versions for Cybil and Dhalia and the like, rather than have just a small paragraph at the bottom of the game versions. I think User:AlessaGillespie‎ would be a good choice for those, if she wishes. --Faded-Myth 10:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd have no problem doing it if everybody else is ok with it. AlessaGillespie 05:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go on, if any of the users here is fit for the job it has to be you. --Painocus 07:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

???
Hey can you do me a favor... Is there another form of communicating on wiki without going through the mytalk option. Someone with a Z in their name left me one and it wasn't on my talk page... so... how can i monitor who's talking to me? Thanks man.

P.S. I'll try and keep updating on the forums--Cybil24 22:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The only other way I know of is the "Email this user" button that appears on the left hand side when you're on a user's page. Dunno if that helps though. --Faded-Myth 21:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I sure you all will be of great help
When you learn some more characters from Shattered Memories please post, I want to see if Lisa is in it, I have it preordered and I want to learn more about the characters in it.
 * Don't worry, we're all just as keen to play this game. Keep checking back for information as it's posted! --Faded-Myth 00:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

What is going on with the page editing
I have noticed a lot notes saying that cause of abuse no one can edit what kind of abuse was. I hope it is nothing serious.
 * We've just had a lot of anonymous users deleting information and replacing it with random words and meaningless sentences, and there have been a few cases of people being insulting and verbally abusing members. We've decided to disable anonymous user editing for the time being in an effort to curb that kind of behavior. --Faded-Myth 00:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically it was disabled because of extensive verbal abuse and harassment being enacted against editors. Like Faded-Myth said, the disable is being used to curb such behavior. AlessaGillespie 01:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Pyramid Head's Identity
Does anyone know what pyramid head looks like without the metal helmet?
 * No, though it is believed he is similar in appearance to Valtiel or even the Butcher, as they are both important figures in Silent Hill mythology. --Faded-Myth 01:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I recall seeing screenshots of Pyramid Head with a tongue, if it helps. Time to go look for them . . . Robert Orville Berkshire 01:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe there's YouTube footage of it as well, though the tongue sneaks through the helmet if I recall correctly. --Faded-Myth 01:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I fail again. Won't let me link (confirmation code won't show up), so just search YouTube for "pyramid head tongue"; it'll be the first result. According to the comments and tags, it's a mod/hack. I guess he has no tongue. Robert Orville Berkshire 01:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you search Yotube for Let's play Silent Hill 2 [BLIND], I think it's part 11 or 12 (the first combat encounter with Pyramid Head), you can see Pyramid Head grab James and a black tendril snake out of the helmet. --TheGoodman 01:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've heard that PH would look just like James underneath the helmet (SH2's version only, of course). AlessaGillespie 01:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Isn't the butcher a dark part of Travis and Pyramid Head the dark part of James, those main characters have huge monsters but what does Alessa have the only thing I'v seen her do is split her soul. wouldn't it be cool if she had her own monster to represent her in some way?
 * She might have Pyramid Head for herself in the film. Robert Orville Berkshire 01:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All the monsters in SH1 represent Alessa and her pain, as well as the town of Silent Hill, in a variety of ways. Check out the articles on each monster and they'll tell you what they symbolize, including what part of Alessa they represent. While the Butcher and Pyramid Head are for 2 and Origins, they are part of the same mythology and history of Silent Hill, therefore share similar characteristics and physical traits. As for the film, Robert is correct, Pyramid Head belongs to Alessa in the movie. --Faded-Myth 01:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Last question
It always confuses me about the whole God thing are they talking about our god, I love the SH songs performed by Mary McGlynn and she always talks about God? could you answer that for me then I will leave you alone.


 * The God mentioned in the Silent Hill games is a different god worshipped by a cult called the Order. If you listen to Mary McGlynn's song called "Sun" (I think this is the one?), it explains the origins of the god. Also, the god is female. =P See God for details. AlexShepherd 01:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to bother you but I need advise
I am writing a SH story and I am totally clueless about how to describe the Otherworld, I know the paint peels and building changed but what else is in it, I'm just getting aquinted with the worlds of Silent Hill and believe me they are very confusing, Oh I understand about the God thing thank you for telling me the song, so please answer my question.


 * First, try the article itself on the Otherworld. It'll go into more depth than anything I say (guaranteed or your money back!) Essentially, the Otherworld varies based on the specific area; whereas one area might be an industrial hell, another might look like a surging infection. Primary features would be hanging corpses, rusted, blood-drenched machinery and iron, barbed wire in some places. 'Cycles' are common in Silent Hill 3, and used throughout the franchise, like fans and valves. Televisions, always with some variant of snow/noise, have been spotted. Hospital materials (gurneys, wheelchairs, needles, bandages) are often frequent inhabitants of the Otherworld. Robert Orville Berkshire 02:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The Otherworld article is definately your Go-To place for information. An important thing to remember is the Otherworld isn't just rust and bloody corpses. It changes depending on the individual. It's basically a representation of that person's mental state. Alessa was burned alive, so her Otherworld of metal grates and corpses is a manifestation of that intense pain and suffering. James Sunderland's Otherworld is much more mundane, wet and dreary to represent his gloomy personality and state of mind. --Faded-Myth 02:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Movie Locations
I recently created a page for the sanctuary Alessa was burned in in the movie, and I was thinking of creating other pages for places seen in the movie (such as the bowling alley and its outside area, the Da Silva household, and the main chruch), but I didn't know if that might be considered overdoing it. :/ AlessaGillespie 07:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Not at all. We have articles for even small, trivial locations in the games too. I guess if you get a location that's in the game (like a store) that is just passed by, if the game version already exists then just add the film reference below. But the Da Silva household is prominent enough to have a page, especially given its importance at the end of the movie to establish the fates of the Da Silvas. And the courtyard area was a big enough scene to include mention. Go for it! --Faded-Myth 07:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Banners
Working on a few banners. They don't have to be used, I'm just doing them up in case they're ever needed. --Faded-Myth 14:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * So guess what? I made a banner within half an hour of posting the above post, and then my net died for almost two days so it's been sitting on my hard drive like a useless corpse. Oh well. It's just in case anyone has a use for it or wants to put it anywhere. Hope you like. Sepia version too for no real reason.

--Faded-Myth 13:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Those are really good! Though I find your lack of Alessa pictures to be quite disturbing :P AlessaGillespie 07:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hah! I knew you'd say that ;) Don't worry, I'm implimenting her as we speak. Well, I speak. Type. You know what I mean. --Faded-Myth 07:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There ya go! Alessa's there. And Travis too, so he doesn't feel left out. --Faded-Myth 09:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Alessa is somewhere deciding not to sic Dark Alessa on you now. That's really really good! AlessaGillespie 01:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

E3
Well the E3 demo for Shattered Memories came about, and there's a bunch of articles and new screen shots out there. Here's just a few: http://e3.gamespot.com/image_viewer.html?sid=6211015&path=2009/152/959196_20090602_embed001.jpg I'm looking for any videos. --Faded-Myth 03:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

A Video Walkthrough has been posted of the E3 demo! Video You can see the screenshots so far haven't done the game any justice at all. --Faded-Myth 04:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Holy crap...is the guy doing K's voice the guy who does Deckard Caine (Kain?), from Diablo? --TheGoodman 09:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be Michael Gough. So who knows? --Faded-Myth 08:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. According to IMDB, he (Michael Gough) did Harry in SH1. Did not know that. If this is the same guy: Awesome. --TheGoodman 13:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think there's meant to be some kind of controversy over that. In the game he's credited as Michael G, and some people think it's not actually Gough. Personally I think it's too much of a coincidence for it to not be him. And yes, doubly awesome if it is. --Faded-Myth 14:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

New Feature
User:Faded-Myth and myself have spent the last few hours, on and off, trying to hammer out a system commonly referred to as Era Icons. These little icons are located at the top-right of articles, and serve as quicklinks to what body of media the content of that article refers to. Regardless of how the style discussion ends, this system will most likely stay. It is in no way an indication of choosing one writing style over the other. It's simply a way to bring the relevant games to the readers attention, quicker.

Implementing it required playing with the Wiki's javascript, but I haven't noticed any ill effects. If you receive any Java warnings, report them immediately. Hope the feature helps. --TheGoodman 10:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

And a bloody pain in the arse it was too. But the smell of victory was worth it.

I wasn't sure if I was going to go with symbols when I started the icons, (for example the Order symbol for Homecoming and the Screaming Door Face for The Room), but I wound up just jsuing the abbreviations. I might go with the symbols though, if people think it would look better. Let me know and I'll make the changes.

And so you know, you can find them here: http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Era --Faded-Myth 13:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Good work, you two! Sorry for being inactive most of this period, but my real life has really been busy lately. Anyway I have a question; is the "Films" one meant for articles related to the Silent Hill (film), articles abut SH-Films or both?--Painocus 22:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It can be used for anything that could fit into a Films category. And thanks! --TheGoodman 01:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That's fine, real life gets that way sometimes. I'm going to be busy myself next week. As for the films, yep, right now they link any kind of film, but if more movies get released then I'll give each movie their own film icon. --Faded-Myth 03:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In that case I think we should make another one for articles related to Gans' Silent Hill film, like the onces for the game. --Painocus 19:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Arright. I'll adjust the icons to suit. --Faded-Myth 14:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Page Relations
For lack of a better heading. Alright, so basically, I've been scratching my head the past couple of days trying to decide how to link some of these pages up. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not too keen on having small pages with just 2 or 3 linesand a picture, and my first instinct is to compile them into one page. For example, the Art of Silent Hill and its sequel. or I could create two pages, one for each, and if we could have an "Other Media" section in the pull down menu, we can have easy links to the various multimedia released available. I'll once again point to another Wiki as an example, in this case the Halo Wiki, which has a side bar thingy which begins with the games and artwork, and then beneath those it has an In-Universe pull down which links to Characters and the like, which are written In-Universe. --Faded-Myth 04:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

New Skin
Alright folks, if you have your skin preferences set to allow adminsettings to override your personal settings, you should be seing the new wiki skin as you read this. To which I say cool. If you don't have that option enabled, you should give it a go, you may like what you see.

I've been browsing the wiki using this skin for the majority of the day, and have encountered no debilitating issues. That's not to say they aren't there, or they won't occur. If you notice anything amiss, or something does not look the way it did or should, do not hesitate to let me know. I want this to run as smooth as possible for all of our users. I hope you guys enjoy the new look. --TheGoodman 00:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it looks pretty good. Nice job! AlessaGillespie 00:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Very nice indeed. Makes a change from the generic Gaming one I was using. Not too dark or garish, not too bright. Love it. --Faded-Myth 03:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well. Those of you not using FireFox are finally seeing the skin as it was meant to be seen. I wasn't aware of a difference until I was browsing a friend's computer (He's strictly an IE guy...). So, if it looks different then it had before, I hope you enjoy it. If you see no difference, disregard this update. --TheGoodman 18:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Templates
I made one myself XD You don't have to use it though of course, especially if you think it's too big.

--Faded-Myth 15:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I need to check it and make any alterations if it's allignment isn't correct, but I've roughed up a "Real World" template to include on corporate or Out-Of-Universe articles, in case people decide to go that way. Basically it sits on the right of the screen. I figured Kaufmann looking bored was appropriate, though I may change it to the Shattered Memories shrink, depending. --Faded-Myth 05:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The more idea you share on taking the wiki In-Universe, the more I lean that way. I like this tamplate the way it is, but if you decide to go with Dr. K (SM Shrink), it'd be cool if the pic was of him taking a swig from his glass. --TheGoodman 09:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

=May 2009=

Keys and Dogs
If you type in "key" in the search field, you get a vast number of separate entries. While typing in the key your looking for obviously helps, I'm wondering if we should have a key hub, or is that over specializing? I'm thinking the same for dogs too, since they're very similar, with subtle aesthetic changes. I'm just throwing this out into the pond, since I don't think it's a necessary thing. --Faded-Myth 03:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, we do have a category for keys in the items category and we could make a dogs category. What's a "hub" by the way? I'm not sure what it is >.< AlexShepherd 03:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hub is just a trendy technical term for "base" or "home". Basically I was just referring to a "Keys" page, but to be honest there's that many keys in the games that it would be a pretty big page in itself, so the category idea is probably best as it is. --Faded-Myth 03:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Personally, I'm all for keys being lumped on a single page for each game...like SH1 Keys, SH2 Key, ect. --TheGoodman 09:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Alrighty, I'll get on that tonight. Just call me Captain Keyes. That's a joke. Also, just to reitterate, do you want one page for all game keys within that one page, organized by categories? Or do you want a page each for each game? --Faded-Myth 10:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Page for each game would be best. --TheGoodman 10:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Really rough pages sketched out at the moment. I'm still working out the layout for each and working on putting images in them, so bare with me. I mean bear with me. Let's not get naked here. --Faded-Myth 12:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Custom Skin
Since we're rolling right along on customizing templates, how does everyone feel about customizing our layout? Post your thoughts. --TheGoodman 03:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * What are your ideas on how to make it look? AlessaGillespie 03:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I was thinking either different shades of red, to simulate the blood and rust look of the Otherworld, or grey/black/red to match the templates. Granted, we can make it more than just a color swap... --TheGoodman 05:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not very into the red and black thing because I think people would look at the skin and think that blood and gore is what Silent Hill is (when it's so much more!). Also, the Resident Evil Wiki already has the same scheme and people might see similarity and think SH is a copy of RE or something. But if we can have more than one custom skin, I'd completely support it! It is a good idea. Also, check out the skins in the preferences menu. I really like the "Gaming" scheme with the dark blue background and white text (it could represent the "darkness" which the flashlight illuminates). We could take out the yellow and replace it with white or grey or another color. We could have 3 custom themes: The fog world/mist (white background with light blue), the darkness (like the Gaming skin without yellow) and the Otherworld (similar to RE wiki). AlexShepherd 07:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's an example AlexShepherd 07:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I like the multiple skin idea. For now, I can go ahead and set our default skin to gaming, see how it works out. I'll edit the logo to mesh with the blue better, and we can take it from there. --TheGoodman 12:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Played around with the wiki with the gaming skin on. The biggest problem I've seen comes from our character and game templates. The white text of the skin is almost invisible on the grey background of the templates. That being the case, I'll revert to default skin. --TheGoodman 13:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I would suggest a background with an actual pictures or collage of pictures from the games/movie, but I already learned from my MySpace page that text will clash with the different colors, unless the picture's colors are pretty similar. AlessaGillespie 06:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Been playing around with the Main Navigation menu on and off this morning, and I think it's at a complete enough point to give it a test run for the entire wiki. Feedback is appreciated. --TheGoodman 15:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * From what I can see, we can only run a single skin at a time. Sucky. However, I agree with AlexShepherd in that an illuminated darkness theme is much more applicable than gory shades of red. I've been doing some Monaco coding to my User:Monaco.css page for the last hour or so, and I like what I have so far. I wanna play around with background images and such for a little bit, than maybe make the skin our default, if only for feedback and testing purposes. --TheGoodman 02:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well...that ended very badly. I think I need to spend more time studying before I try that again. I was stuck with a blue wall after all those edits. --sigh-- --TheGoodman 03:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Pardon my dust...it's a lot harder than you might think to find a color that doesn't clash with grey...I've got a functioning skin, and its currently set to my default. I'll be browsing the site with it, and will report my impressions of it. --TheGoodman 12:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, only one problem encountered, and that's with the Song infobox. Its background color, and the default page color are almost identical. I'll be adding a subtle border to it after I save this change. Before I implement this skin, I'd like a show of hands for those in favor...--TheGoodman 13:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Starscream says "Aye". --Faded-Myth 13:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Friend, you have referenced my second obsession. A party for you, says I. --TheGoodman 13:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Congrats
It appears congrats are in order to our two new admins, Painocus and the Goodman. Cheers to both of them! AlessaGillespie 08:01, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, congrats to Painocus! My appointment was unexpected actually, but I hope to do the Wiki proud. TheGoodman 08:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you and congrats to you too Goodman. I hope not to disappoint either. --Painocus 01:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Administrator
This have to be brought up sooner or later so why not sooner: Our current Administrators, User:Pyramidhead and User:Karloffian32, has not been active on this wiki since 24 of April 2008, and we are beginning to need a new one with pages needing deletion, occasional vandals and other problems. Informing Wikia staff abut this problem I was told to start a discussion here on the wiki where the users could agree on who we want as new admin. I'll be glad to take this role, but anyone else who want to, and have the time, please state so here. --Painocus 09:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm always up for helping out, but I'll support whoever everyone picks. I'm fine with you taking the reigns Painocus.--Faded-Myth 09:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You've shown you can take lead, Painocus, and you've done good at it. Here's to ya. TheGoodman 10:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto. Good luck as admin. =] AlexShepherd 13:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Do I get a raise?--Faded-Myth 15:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for your support, all three of you of you. I'll keep this discussion open for some days in case anyone has something more to say, then I'll confront the Wikia-staff abut this. (And Faded-Myth, I'll double you pay... unless you are actually paid that is :P) --Painocus 23:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * After being inactive for over a year; User:Pyramidhead logged in on the 29 of April 2009 so my request was declined. --Painocus 22:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a shame they can't bestow you with admin rights anyway since the fact remains we need someone who's regularly online to delete things and do general admin duties. --Faded-Myth 02:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So, they've left us to drip dry, huh? Not very nice of them, says I. TheGoodman 19:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well they did give Pyramidhead bureaucrat-rights, meaning that he can now turn other users into admins, but he is still not active editing nor does he seam to response to messages. I guess we could file a complaint to the staff if nothing else.--Painocus 01:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Options are pretty limited, aren't they? Looks like Pyramidhead's logging in regularly, but not actually doing anything. TheGoodman 09:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I've posted a complaint to the Wikia Adoption Page (didn't known where such a thing should go...), stating that Pyramidhead isn't performing any of his admin duties and requested that we get an active user appointed to admin...here's hoping. TheGoodman 19:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Man, this dance is gettin' old. As pointed out by User SawBucks, a regular contributor on Lostpedia shares the same name with our currently MIA admin. I've left him a message there, pointing him in the direction of our plight.... --TheGoodman 22:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't believe he cares. He logged on right after he was notified that he might lose the Wikia from inaction, so it stands to reason that he also got the message telling him he can make others into admins. Which shows he doesn't want to "share the power", so to speak. We need Painocus to be appointed admin to regulate the forums. And, since I didn't say it before, I vote Painocus too. AlessaGillespie 00:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, as for informing him ...it seems that's the only way Wikia will do something, is if he's been informed. However, as you pointed out, he's most likely already been informed. I figured at least trying to inform him would help spur the Wikia staff along. --TheGoodman 00:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Videos
Has anybody else noticed that our videos have stopped showing up in articles? --TheGoodman 23:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ehh...nevermind. Not my day, guys. --TheGoodman 00:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

=April 2009=

Movie character templates
Just so you know I created a new template for film character boxes. The only difference to the current one used is the last parameter says "Actor" not "Voice Actor". All you have to do to change the current template is go into the box code and add (film) with the brackets to the top line so it says SH Character (film), and delete voice from the bottom line. Two easy steps! --Faded-Myth 01:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Silent Hill 2 debating
There's a lot of bickering and personal insults being thrown around with matters concerning Silent Hill 2's endings, character motives and so forth, and we really need to focus on providing accurate information that's unbiased, and quit insulting each other. Here's a few proposals.


 * I think certain SH2 pages need to be written so that the endings and character motives are considered inconclusively ambiguous, or subject to opinion, rather than state what we think is the right or wrong answer.
 * Open up some kind of proper discussion forum so things like this can be debated out properly, and decided on by a majority decision. Otherwise the page is going to be changed constantly to reflect each person's individual opinion and the history filled with personal insults, which just looks immature and puts people, especially newcomers, off editing. This Wiki shouldn't be a hostile environment for anyone, and no one should be made to look or feel stupid for having an opinion.
 * Work out some final thoughts on Silent Hill 2 that everyone agrees with, (hence leaving it ambiguous), and then lock the pages to prevent alterations from anyone. if anyone wants to change anything, they can bring it up in the forum and everyone can discuss it logically and reasonably.

We need to work together on this, not against each other. If something as important as this is an issue, talk it out and decide what the majority opinion is, or leave it ambiguous allowing for all possible outcomes, not just one. A good example is with the slightly simpler topic regarding SH:SM's position within the game line. That was properly discussed and resolved without any amniosity. I'm pretty sure the same can be achieved for the more complicated matters, such as Silent Hill 2. --Faded-Myth 17:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

New stuff
I added some new stuff, including a news (for notable changes on the wiki and notable information about Silent Hill) section and replaced the featured media. I created a logo for the wiki and 050294 set is as the default banner. I also created a memos (the notes you find lying around the games) categories and puzzle categories (ex: information on the puzzles and solutions in different riddle settings) If anyone wants to change anything, feel free to do so! AlexShepherd 08:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Nurses
I went and compiled all the information of the Nurses throughout the series into one page. Phew. Now my armpits are all sweaty. Just thought you'd like to know that. :D If there's more Nurse shots uloaded, you can just create a gallery and place it at the bottom of the page. Then we'd have a nice big army of Nurse pics. --Faded-Myth 13:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

"Silent Hill/Shattered Memories (Unreleased)"
The Main Page lists Shattered Memories next to Silent Hill (video game) under "Main Series" like it does with Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams and Silent Hill 2, but SH1's other remakes are listed under "Spin-Off"; so I think SM should be moved to "Spin-Off", or into a new list for remakes along with Silent Hill: Play Novel and Silent Hill: Mobile. Opinions? --Painocus 08:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I know this is going to be a source of debate. I respect the original Silent Hill as much as anyone, and the original development team. But I'm considering this remake to be more of a canon-based remake as opposed to the likes of the mobile games, which to me seemed more of a conveniance for hand-held devices than anything. Basically I see Shattered Dreams to be more in the vein of Restless Dreams, only more extreme since it's a total remake.

If too many people aren't happy with this, I would rather have SM be classed under a "Remake" category, because I feel the game is more than just a spin-off, (and this is talking regardless of wether the game is good or not).--Faded-Myth 08:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well being a spin-off does not mean it is any less then the original games; for example the Persona-series is a spin-off Megami Tensei-series but not a lesser series because of that, and the first Final Fantasy Tactics is also the best Final Fantasy game I've played. But I respect you opinion on the subject, so I'll support putting it under "Remake". --Painocus 09:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Those are very good points. Well played. You know, I can't believe I was playing Chocobo Tales yesterday... --Faded-Myth 09:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, if you recommend it I might buy it when I've saved enough money. But back on subject; no other replies have been made here so I'll put the 3 remakes under a new "Remakes" section. --Painocus 16:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

=Kirkburn's stuff=

Wikia Gaming IRC channel
Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net, where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from http://irc.wikia.com/gaming.

Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 11:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming footer
Hello! I went ahead and added a Wikia Gaming footer to the bottom of the Main Page. We're trying to get Wikia's gaming wikis more linked with each other. It's not mandatory, so you can remove it if you really hate it, but it would be appreciated if you didn't :). You can change the links to point to any other wikia wikis you like or cooperate with. Ausir 17:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)