Talk:Timeline

Useful Note
The creator of Shattered Memories comments on game timelines and where they fit into canon. I just think this is something worth reading when it comes to taking game timelines into consideration.


 * Question: I wonder how big the Team Silent documentation legacy is. There is a Homecoming guide that lists what years each game takes place in. Are these endorsed by Konami as official dates? Or are developers free to do what they wish with the timeline?

--Faded-Myth 17:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * TOMM HULETT: Konami definitely has information and dates that we work off of, but an important part of Silent Hill is keeping those things secret. (Just part of that ambiguity.) So, the writers of that guide were probably just giving context to the events of the games, but those should not be considered “canonical” dates. Also as I mentioned earlier, Konami is still in charge of all the games, so nothing a developer does is ever just for the heck of it.

Well at least we finally know that the Silent Hill Heaven timeline is just fan fiction nonsense. --Jack Miller 12:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Silent Hill in 1990
The articles states: "The events of Silent Hill occur" under the "1900s"-subsection. Is this confirmed anywhere? The Silent Hill (video game)-article even contradicts this by stating it takes place in the 80's. --Painocus 08:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I could probably give you a pretty accurate timeline of the movie, but I'm not so good with the games. I guess it occurring sometime in 1900's is a way of saying it happened anywhere from 1901-1999, which can't possibly not be right to an extent. AlessaGillespie 09:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto, you're right ;]
 * But I don't know where to find official info for when the first game takes place, so I just put it under 1900s. If there's an official date for the first game, we can also find an official date for the third game (17 years later). AlexShepherd 13:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm alright with game events being placed, at least, past the mid-century point. I base this solely on the amount of technological progression seen, like pocket radios, flashlights, powerboats, videos tapes...I could go on, but I think you guys get it... TheGoodman 13:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

You know what? I was just about to type the very same thing. The clunky, box like equipment harry has is very 80's-early 90's. And Heather seems like a contemporary 90's kind of girl which puts the time about right. I think Harry needs an iPod though. <3 --Faded-Myth 14:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You forget the "better than an iPhone" phone Harry has in Shattered Memories. Oh yeah, he is hip. TheGoodman 14:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

The sad thing is I wrote that joke, and already I forgot it. I have the memory of a goldfish, just so you know. --Faded-Myth 14:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's alright, I've got enough to spare. TheGoodman 14:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread "1900" as "1990". Please forget all this. --Painocus 13:23, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's OK. We all make misnakes. --Faded-Myth 13:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Homecoming Events
How this escaped my attention, I can't say, but while writing the article for memos found in the Shepherd House, I actually paid attention to Adam Shepherd's RELEASE CERTIFICATE, which gives his birth year as 1954. Given his age of 54 in the instruction manual, this has game events occurring on at least April 18th, 2008. I'd like permission to alter the timeline to reflect this. TheGoodman 13:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Definitely! You don't need permission, as long as you have a reliable official source AlexShepherd 22:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh hey, look at that. They were right! Some good detective work there, TheGoodman. I just hope Double Helix knows what they're doing, putting a solid date and time on the events in a Silent Hill game... PrototypeC 20:55, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Suggested or probably time line.
Cloud this page also have suggested or probably time line, not only the official. Much of the dates probably won't be even released.

So if the Silent Hill 1 events were in the 80's this would appear in orden in the time line, not unsorted in the 1990's group. Also this way the probable dates for the other games could be added. --GuabaMan58 18:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, you should also see this page for info!: AlexShepherd 09:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would actually like to see a time line that was a little bit more precise than the one we have now. Since we know that Travis Grady's dad died when he was a child (probably around eight or nine) in 1961, we could put Origins pretty definitively in the 1980s since he's at least 30 by then, and Silent Hill 1 in either the late 1980s or early 1990s. That date makes sense anyway, because even though Silent Hill usually avoids technology like it's the plague, there is a huge flatscreen or projection display in the mall that I would venture to say couldn't have existed before the late '80s, at least. You could extrapolate from that and say that Silent Hill 3 pretty much has to be set in the 21st century. Dr. Malpractice 02:46, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Movie Timeline
Since the movie timeline is non-canon to the rest of the timeline, is it possible to make a seperate timeline for the movie? AlessaGillespie 07:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, although there probably aren't too many dates mentioned in the movie. All I can remember is the date of the fire/alessa's burning, the date of the movie, and alessa's birth date. In the scene where christopher looks at the websites, on the "Silent Hill: The tainted town" article, it states that in 1987, teenagers went to silent hill and in 1992, a boy was dropped in a sulphur vent. You can pause the movie when the articles flash across the screen and read some backstory for yourself =P Also, instead of just a timeline, you could create a new page with backstory, information, history and dates about the movie AlexShepherd 09:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The flashback happened in 1974, so Alessa must have been born in 1965. Alice Krige and Deborah Kara Unger have both given us exact ages of their characters in the flashback, so we can deduce their birth years as well. A lot of the other stuff that isn't exact I can mark as speculation. As for the pictures, I have an extensive list of Silent Hill screencaps listed on my User Page, so I'll use that. AlessaGillespie 03:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Wait, if the flashback was 1974, would Alessa not have been born in 1967? I thought she was 7, just like in the games? Natza12345 11:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Alessa's case report lists her as 9 years old and Jodelle Ferland was 9 when she filmed the part. AlessaGillespie 07:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I just assumed the movie and the film sharred that similarity Natza12345 18:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Timeline
Here. http://silenthillforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=64

This is the most accurate timeline I´ve found this far.

Don't even go there pal. That timeline is totally inaccurate and is full of speculation. For example, it claims that Silent Hill: Homecoming takes place in 2007. The game actually takes place in 2008.

Also, that timeline says that Mary Shepherd stayed at Brookhaven Hospital. None of the games even imply that. Yet people believe that guy's ridiculous fan fiction. --Jack Miller 12:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

What evidence do we have that Homecoming takes place in 2007? It's not that I don't believe it, but I've never found such information, and to be honest I'm not sure Double Helix was clear on the timeline when they started either. PrototypeC 20:53, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Origins as canon timeline
While I feel that's a dubious thing to do, we want to make sure there isn't any other dates mentioned in the game that we can add to the page. For instance, I was certain that the date given in the Motel to get the wedding ring was actually June 12, 1961, and that that was the date of the wedding, not Richard's suicide. That's how it is marked on the page; only as July, and as Richard's suicide date. "To my June bride" was the inscription, so putting the marriage date as June seems clear. Beyond that, I'm not sure. Anyone else have opinions on this? PrototypeC 21:05, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Exact years
After a long investigation, i finally discover the years of events. A part on Walter Sullivan's diary, he says that "He (Walter) only leave the round cell on Sunday. And I go and read the book." Additionally, we learn this entry is written on a Sunday. We must also note the days on which Walter travels to Ashfield (February 10th and March 17th) are also on Sundays. Examining a calendar for a year (and the following year) in which these dates all occur on Sundays reveal 1973 and 1974. Given that, and knowing Walter's age, allows us to add the 18 years until Walter begins his murder spree (1991/1992) and another 10 years for when Silent Hill 4: The Room occurs (2001/2002). And Silent Hill 3 take place BEFORE Silent Hill 4: The Room.

So its like this:

Silent Hill: 1983 or 1984

Silent Hill 2: 1993 or 1994

Silent Hill 3: 2000 or 2001

Silent Hill 4. The Room: 2001 or 2002

Silent Hill: Origins: 1976 or 1977

SIilent Hill: Homecoming 2007.

See also Talk: Travis Grady, Travis' age.


 * I'm so glad I found this... I did some similar research a while back and ended up with the same conclusion too and it made perfect sense that SH4 took place in '02. If this were the case and Sullivan died 10 years prior to SH4, it would put his year of death at '92, which would explain the mention of his death in the newspapers during SH2 (set in '93). Also, there was that note/letter Dahlia wrote to the Wish House concerned if they had "found Alessa yet" and asking about "Walter's progress". With that said it can be assumed that both of them were about the same age-range - If Walter died in '91/'92 like you say at the age of 24, it would put his year of birth at 1968, just one year older than Alessa. --Saila Wei 16:43, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Possible timeline
I was looking through Alex's diary, and the date mentioning Silent Hill 1 seems to imply 1986 (or possibly 88), but it's clear that you can see part of an "8" after the "19--". Therefore, if SH1 occured in 86, then that would mean Origins took place somewhere in 79, seven years before. Going by that, Silent Hill 3 would then land somewhere in late 2002, early 2003, although the diary does seem to have a written "5" which is scribbled over with a "0". The diary also mentions James receieved Mary's "letter" in 1998.

As for The room, and Arcade, I can't say. Though I would imagine Arcard may just be a spin-off that isn't really meant to be taken as a serious part of the canon, much like how Shattered memories is pretty much in it's own continuity. Granted, there is fair reason to doubt most of Alex's diary, as much of it could have been written while he was institionalized, and thus could be considered unreliable. Not to mention the fact that many of the events in some of these games probably weren't documented by many of the characters (at least James, unless someone reported the year he and Mary vanished). Though speaking of SH2, I could have sworn it was said that that game occured AFTER 3, because somewhere it was mentioned how the Brookhaven hospital appeared to be in better condition in SH3. Of course if this were the case, then it would mean that Douglas had been called on a completely unrelated case and not finding out James' whereabouts. Orpheum9000 07:33, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I reverted your revision. The point of this timeline is not to include speculation. It's scribbled out for a reason -- to give you approximates: Origins in 70s, SH1 in 80s, SH2 in 90s, SH3 in 2000s. In Shattered Memories, Cheryl Heather Mason is born 1983 (meaning SH1 could take place in 1983) and a calendar in SH2 suggests it takes place in 1994, not 1998. This is all just speculation though. It's a fact that SH2 takes place before SH3. Alex's diary just doesn't supply cold, concrete proof unfortunately. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  08:18, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Shattered Memories
I suggest removing all references to Shattered Memories from the timeline. Maybe it can have its own timeline page, maybe not, but either way... its entry says it's in a separate timeline, yet it's still included in this one? That hardly makes sense. Byakuya Truelight 02:35, December 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's only like, 5 SM references on the timeline? A timeline with only 5 dates is a pretty short timeline. If "different timeline" is confusing you, you can simply change it to "different universe" I just assumed most people were smart enough to know that SHSM is set in a different universe. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  03:03, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Silent Hill Downpour Timeline
Checking the walktroughs, one of the sidequest involves searching for a missing 8 year old kid. Her date of birth is 1996, placing the events of Downpour during or after 2004.Aquilus758 19:27, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

This is true, though there's also two calendars in game that suggest it could take place in either 2006 or 2017. I      prefer to think it takes place in 2006, but then again, the sidequest involving Ariadne has much more substantial info to suggest it took place in 2004. Either way, not saying i hate the Double Helix games, but there's a ton of inconsistencies between the two that really bug me. (IAmThePyramidHead (talk) 21:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC))


 * Downpour is not made by Double Hexlix, it's made by Vatra Games in the Czech Republic of Europe. Just a common misconception.— Alex Shepherd   ツ  00:33, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Silent Hill and Harry's Jeep
On youtube the guys from Twin Perfect in their video series, "The Real Silent Hill Experience", pointed out that Harry's Jeep is specifically a Jeep Wrangler YJ which was first sold in 1986. Therefore, Silent Hill couldn't have taken place earlier than 1986. This begs the question of whether the official timeline is mistaken or if the creators of the original Silent Hill mistakenly use a car that didn't exist yet at the time the game takes place? Personally, I find it more likely that someone in an outside studio came up with a set dates for a timeline and Konami execs approved it than for Team Silent to have made such an obvious mistake.

Harry's Jeep

1986 Jeep Wrangler YJ

LordVanya (talk) 12:42, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh noes, they used a car 3 years earlier than its release date! In all seriousness, it barely matters. There's Portishead posters in the cafe which wasn't formed until '91. There are Carrie posters in town which came out way earlier in '76. It's obviously meant to be a pop culture reference - Silent Hill is full of them. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  15:43, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's actually extremely common for fictional works set in times before the work's creation to have errors like that. Even the Harry Potter series featured a mistake in the timeline: Harry states in a letter from the summer of 1994 that Dudley threw his PlayStation out the window, yet the PlayStation wasn't released until December of that year. Something tiny like that doesn't disprove the official timeline.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  20:19, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

If you assume that Sh3 took place in the present of 2003, the SH:0 guide I posted below says that Cheryl/Alessa split took place 24 years ago, or 1979. SH1 is 7 years later, or 1986. Tripplenegro (talk) 22:26, September 9, 2019 (UTC)

Silent Hill Zero Timeline:
The official Guidebook for Silent Hill Zero gives a two page timeline of the entire series. It's in Japanese of course. But it seems to be the most straight forward timeline Konami has given for the series, and it's an official source. I've used machine translation on it, and I can mostly make sense of it. It alos gives relative dates rather than hard dates. It uses Alessa/Cheryl's split as Year Zero, and everything after that.

The one part I'm unclear on is whether it's saying Mary and James visited SH 10 years later, or if it says the events of the game took place 10 years later.

https://archive.org/details/SilentHillZeroPerfectGuideJapanese/page/n7

Tripplenegro (talk) 22:22, September 9, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for sharing! This is valuable information, and with it being from an accepted, direct source with no fan assumptions, etc., I fully believe it should be implemented into the wiki. However, using a computer translator is an issue; I don't know any that are very reliable.

I am sadly zero help on anything involving numbers. I can't do math for anything to save my ass. -- ╟_Ωzz… &#12288; t a l k 22:49, September 9, 2019 (UTC)

This is the timeline the Machine translation implies:

Year 0 - SH Origins

7 years later - SH1 events

10 Years later - Walter Sulivan's killing spree

10 Years later - SH2 events

12 years later - Harry kills a member of the Order

20 years later - SH4

24 years later - SH3 events

If you assume SH3 takes place in the then present of 2003, you can work backwards and get these dates:

1979 - SH Origins

1986 - SH1

1989 - SH2

1999 - SH4

2003 - SH3

That's a big assumption, but it fits everything we know. Tripplenegro (talk) 01:54, September 12, 2019 (UTC)