Talk:Butcher

It would also be good to mention his appearance through one of the spy-holes in the motel, in the room covered in photographs. 70.240.117.192 00:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Butcher function
Many people make the association between physical appearance of PH and the Butcher, but the article seems to be coming to the conclusion that it means they act the same as well. Only once does the Butcher express the desire to fight Travis, and is often seen as being ahead of him rather than pursuing him. Even though Travis is only shown to be the Butcher in the "bad" ending, it does not preclude it being so in the "good". My personal interpretation of why he attacked Travis was due to the particular situation at the time. The Butcher was emotionally brutalizing the two-back monster. Repressed sexuality can be associated with extreme violence, so much so that even after murdering a couple he caught fornicating, his anger did not subside. His anger was then turned inward in frustration; along the lines of being aware of his repressed sexuality, but getting angry at the person that suggests something may be wrong with him(which happens to be himself).

The nurse shaking in the first encounter, although relatively common movement for creatures in SH games, takes on particularly poignant connotations here. She is shivering, terrified to move for fear of what may happen. She even looks up at him for a brief moment, as though in fear of what he is about to do. He then shoves the cleaver into her womb, slicing downward; another expression of his sexual frustration. Any comments on this would be appreciated, as it seems much of this article is based on an assuming he is like Pyramid Head. Lots of SH info has to be assumed, so I seek a consensus. -- Shoggoth1890 08:07, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also note that the Butcher fight occurs shortly after peeping into the Rose Room, where you see Lisa's sweater/coat hanging, and hear the sounds of a couple having sex(Lisa/Kaufman). After her previous "performance" in the theatre, it makes sense that this would infuriate Travis. -- Shoggoth1890 20:29, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding speed
I find the Butcher to move a lot faster than Red Pyramid Thing (Pyramid Head); however, this depends on the difficulty setting in Silent Hill 2, whereas Origins only has one difficulty. Under 'character' I wanted to put something like this:

"...more calm and focused appearance than the other monster. Based on normal difficulty in Silent Hill 2, The Butcher is somewhat faster than Pyramid Head if it doesn't get stuck on the ??? (central sink/dishes area in the kitchen). It also is not slowed by gunfire, but seems to move at the same pace regardless of how it is damaged. The Great Cleaver also seems to have less weight than the Great Knife, requiring less effort to move"

Can someone else help me make this shorter/more concise/more accurate/more specific? PrototypeC (talk) 22:42, January 27, 2013 (UTC)