Talk:Silent Hill (video game)

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Lighter v.s. matchstick v.s. flare
I have a silly question, in the beginning of the game during the nightmare sequence, does Harry light a lighter, a matchstick or a flare? Also in the film, Rose has a lighter and in Shattered Memories, Harry has flares. AlexShepherd 23:35, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Gans said he specifically copied the lighter from the game scene, and since Konami didn't disagree with him, I'm assuming it was a lighter.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  00:05, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Moral of the Story
Should your child run away, let the kid go. If she doesn't come back, it was never meant to be. Console yourself with the knowledge that 1 in 5 children are vessels for the birthing of demons.
 * As far as I'm concerned, all children are demons. I'd rather get another cat. -- 19:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Isn't that quote from "How to Survive a Horror Movie"? Xeno the Hedgehog 01:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I think the moral is don't crash your car. If some psychic woman steps out in front of your car, it's her problem, not yours, harry. How about you hit her and deal with the police instead of walking into silent hill. Walking into silent hill when you don't know what you're doing is like walking into racoon city in a suit made of barbecue sauce and a flashing neon sign with a siren thas says "DINNER!!!" she'll probably survive, your not going that fast. however tyour theory is pretty good too.--Dfskelleton 05:19, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?!
Dude, I really want to play this, but I can't find it anywhere for less than $40. I Have played them all except origins and this one. I think I can live without origins, but I can't find #1!!!!--Dfskelleton 19:58, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Freakin' shot in the dark, but I think the reason it's so expensive is because it was released in 19-effin'-99; over a decade ago. You'd be hard pressed to find anything from that time for less than $40. Xeno the Hedgehog 06:35, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ebay is your friend.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  03:07, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I would try and get it off ebay, but my luck on ebay sucks butt. I have won about 1 thing in my entire life on ebay. I think I might be getting it for christmas though. And xeno, I don't think it's because it's old, it's because it's awesome. I found resident evil; nemisis on ps1 for 12 bucks, so that proves that silent hill is better than resident evil in every way. SHOOP FOR SILENT HILL!!!--Dfskelleton 05:23, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Dude, if you REALLY want it, buy it on Play Station Network either on a PSP or PS3. It's like, only $6.00 including lax. You either need a prepaid Play Station Network Card or Credit Card. 04:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Huh?
when I try to get to the talk page for the silent hill franchise it sends me here. that's weird. --Dfskelleton 05:32, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Typo
Is it worth noting that before fighting the Incubus/Incubator there is a typo in the cutscene? Dahlia says "The time is nigh" but the subtitles say "The time is neigh".  HeatherMorris6806  22:56, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Footsteps
When Harry was chasing, what seems to be Cheryl, in the beggining of the game we can hear footsteps from her. How could Harry hear her footsteps if she wasn't wearing shoes in the entire game? I've been meaning to ask this to someone for so long....

"Little you know, little you care" 'MustKillZombies 07:49, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Brown House
In the opening video of the game there is a shot of a brown house out in the middle of nowhere with a fallen telephone pole in front of it. There is an image of it at the bottom of the page about the first game. I don't remember ever finding this location in the game and am wondering if anyone knows what this building is supposed to be.

Mordrid13 12:46, July 14, 2012 (UTC)Mordrid13

You mean this house? It's Dahlia and Alessa's house. HeatherMorris6806 12:56, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you!

Source problem
"In the present, Alessa, having called Cheryl back to the town so that she could complete the Seal of Metatron and commit suicide.."

That's not true. It was Dahlia, who "called Cheryl back" (with a spell), and that speculation about committing suicide shouldn't be in that section (that is "Plot").ABss (talk) 16:18, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * The guidebook disagrees with you. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  16:28, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * "What Alessa was actually creating was the Seal of Metatron. Its name is derived from the name of an angel of release in the Kabbalistic system. Bound by the cult's spell and living in an endless nightmare in agony, Alessa's wish was for a complete death. Since she was unable to die in a normal fashion while under the influence of the power of the malevolent deity, Alessa intended to "annihilate" herself by the power of the Seal of Metatron with the nightmare world at hand."

You mean the book of lost memories? Ok, I agree with the guidebook about the suicide, but at the end of SH: Origins (I mean the "Good", canonic ending) Dahlia states that she's going to use a summoning spell.--ABss (talk) 16:38, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, that's from the SH1 Guidebook, not BOLM. And can't it be possible for both? Dahlia could have intended for Alessa/Cheryl to recombine to birth the God, and Alessa could have intended to recombine with Cheryl to commit suicide to prevent the God's birth. If not, then it's just a retcon. No big deal. And for the love of all things holy, don't try to convince me Alessa's stress caused a boiler to explode either, because that's also a load of bull. Anyway, sorry, better not go on a rant. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  16:45, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * However, Book of Lost Memories also states that Alessa called Cheryl so she could commit suicide. I'm guessing the Origins statement about Dahlia casting a spell is a retcon.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  17:46, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I read the translation of BOLM and it does say, that Alessa called out to Cheryl to return, so I guess you're right, Dahlia's statement is really a retcon. Thanks guys.--ABss (talk) 18:03, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Here, I found this

"Dahlia: Everything is going according to plan. Sheltered in the womb. / Man: But it's not done yet. Half the soul is lost. That is why the seed lies dormant. [...] But the power we could draw now would be very weak; almost nothing. Unless we get the other half of the soul... / Dahlia: We'll use a magical spell. Feeling this child's pain, it's sure to come."

According to Wikipedia (ref. #25), it's from SH, which means, that there's a mistake in BOLM.--ABss (talk) 18:26, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily. Cheryl might have heard Alessa's pain, but she did not come because of that. It was no coincidence that she showed up right as Alessa was creating the Seal. She came to the town when she did because Alessa called to her.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  18:36, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand, but should we trust the guidebook more, than the games? (and there's two of them. Besides SH: Origins was released 4 years later).--ABss (talk) 18:40, April 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Like I said, one does not cancel out the other. Given that two different official sources state that Cheryl showed up when she did because Alessa wanted to commit suicide, it can't be ignored.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  19:33, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * When something is expressly stated in the game, that IS canon - and not what the guidebooks say. I think, when they state different things, although one might not cancel out the other, the "Plot" section should be written in accordance with the game. Anyway, I don't know English that well to keep arguing :)--ABss (talk) 14:29, April 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's not true, ABss. You have to consider everything - all material. Guidebooks are still canon, it just depends on how you deal with information, and possible conflicting information. See this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllThereInTheManual


 * We're not going to be removing the suicide reference just because it's not mentioned in the game. If we did, then it would be biased. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  14:39, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I fine with the suicide reference, I'm talking about WHO made Cheryl return to SH.--ABss (talk) 14:47, April 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * As a Silent Hill fan, and this is solely my theory, I believe both Alessa and Dahlia called Cheryl, but for differing reasons. And Book of Lost Memories is a very trustworthy source - go read Translated Memories when you have some free time. But I doubt anyone can really help you out, or provide insight, since Team Silent dispersed years ago. It's not like it matters much anyway, it's just a little plot element. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  14:54, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * ok:)--ABss (talk) 15:20, April 22, 2013 (UTC)