Talk:Neely's Bar

Sexual frustration
I rewrote the article with citations to primary sources a while back, but we really should be more careful with the over-the-top sexual theories, specifically the ones with no evidence. Masahiro Ito was shown and asked by someone about a snippet from an earlier version of this article claiming that the holes could reference Mary's vagina and he referred it as (direct quote) "too stupid" and "I feel the quote (the "hole" could refer to~) is not a theory but just making fun of SH2.". These Tweets have been getting multiple retreets, nearly 700 likes, and have been making the rounds on Reddit and other places.

Ito and Takayoshi Sato have said in the past that sexuality is a part of the series, but it's not all-encompassing. Not every monster design or hole is meant to be a sexual innuendo. Darkknight2149 (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The article never said the hole in the prison was symbolic of a vagina, that's either a shitpost or someone misinterpreted what it meant since the formatting is different on mobile. I don't use mobile so claiming the prison hole is symbolic of a vagina is simply a misunderstanding which the wiki never said. It's simply an unfortunate coincidence it looked that way on mobile. Considering how bars are where people often find partners and have sex after getting drunk, I don't think that thought (of the newspaper reference, not the prison hole) is that out of the question. However, I do see your point. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  08:26, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The screencap that the appears to be from this revision where it says "The hole could refer to Mary's vagina, and the theme of sexual frustration." It looks like something that may have been quietly added by a passing editor and then slipped under the radar. The bad news is that original Tweet came from an account making fun of the fanbase. At least Ito ended up blocking them, though . Darkknight2149 (talk) 09:38, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I actually added the theory and screencap (again, referring to just the newspaper message, not the Toluca Prison hole). I didn't think it was farfetched considering that bars are known for being lustful locations, and it's not as if there aren't already manifested things in the town to represent James' sexual outlets such as the Mannequins and Maria. The screencap was directly above a point mentioning the hole could be a reference to the prison holes which is why it was there. Really, it's just an unfortunate coincidence it appeared that way on mobile. At least people got a good chuckle that isn't at the expense of anyone or any group.
 * In any case, I wouldn't worry about what people on social media think, it's not like this wiki has ever had a decent reputation with everyone since its inception. As someone who's moderated this wiki for years saying this to another moderator, I know you want this wiki to have a decent rep, but my advice, it's not worth pursuing. Just edit what you can, move on and try not to care so much about what others may think. Let's focus on the wiki's future and not the past. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  12:59, 15 May 2021 (UTC)