User talk:Maxime Bellend

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Quit overlinking
Please quit overlinking. Overlinking is when you link to a character such as Alex Shepherd multiple times. So every time Alex Shepherd is mentioned in an article, there is a link to Alex Shepherd. Having too many links to Alex Shepherd looks bad. You should only link to Alex Shepherd once the first time it is mentioned, and then never link to Alex Shepherd again. When you create too many links to Alex Shepherd, it looks awful. Afterall, no one wants to see Alex Shepherd rubbed in their face too many times. AlessaGillespie already told you to not overlink. Be sure to read the Manual of Style before you edit. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  06:53, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

AlessaGillespie told me not to overlink? Maxime Bellend 07:01, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, check the history of the Timeline. Wikis follow very specific rules. You should really read the MoS if this is your first time editing, or else you may accidentally annoy other editors. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  07:09, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Pyramid Head
http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/File:Pyramidheadpainting.png

How is it not Pyramid Head? — Alex Shepherd   ツ  22:16, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Pyramid Head was created by James. Origins takes place before Silent Hill 2. Maxime Bellend 15:19, January 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's very obviously an Easter Egg reference to SH2. Of course it's Pyramid Head.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  17:53, January 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * As well, the whole "PH is exclusive to James" idea has been retconned by other developers, whether we like it or not. The fact is we have a painting of PH in Origins, which I think is very notable and I think should be included. Understand that SH is a mysterious series and to say that there's no possibility of PH being the monster in that painting is ridiculous. People who think they understand every ambiguous detail of the series and try to pass it off as fact tend to annoy me (cough) TP (cough). There's no shame in saying "we're unsure if this is meant to be PH or not."


 * Also, if PH is "exclusive to James", why does he appear in the movies, comics, other games (Homecoming, BoM, Origins, Arcade)? I mean, even I wish he was exclusive to James, but I don't try to pass off his appearance everywhere else as another "incarnation" of him. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  18:36, January 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * What proof is there that it's Pyramid Head in that painting and not the figure from Misty day, Remains of the Judgment? Also, AlexShepherd, Pyramid Head wasn't in Homecoming and Origins. Maxime Bellend 10:14, February 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * More like: what proof isn't there? In Origins, it looks exactly like PH and is holding his spears. Yes, that IS Pyramid Head in "Misty Day" because Lost Memories confirms it and James even mutters "It's him..." And don't get even started on "Pyramid Head wasn't in Homecoming" because that's not a fact. Also, no need to use italics on talk pages unless you're like OCD or something. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  10:23, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * | "Pyramid head." Takes the appearance of an executioner of times past, but is actually incarnated from the part of James' consciousness that feels he deserves punishment. Maxime Bellend 10:45, February 1, 2012 (UTC)#

Just to oar in my 2-cents here :). The way I've always seen it is that Pyramid Head was a manifestation of James' guilt, combined with the painting of the executioner he saw. Thing is, it doesn't necessarily mean that only James should be able to encounter him. I read someone's comment a while back which said that Silent Hill is indeed a pretty screwed up place, and not everything can be clearly pin-pointed with reason and explanation; hence why we all love the word 'speculation' ;) I think we're all confident in saying that due to Pyramid Head's popularity the Western developers said to themselves, "It isn't Silent Hill without Pyramid Head!", so we've felt that they kinda shoe-horned him in to most scenarios, even with the comics, for fan service.

And at the same time, it's not improbable for that arguments to be countered with, "Pyramid was created by James, but the powerful influence of the town and the strength of the symbolism carried itself through, and he seeks others who feel the need to punish themselves"; and while we're at it, who's to say that their general image couldn't alter between everyone's perception. I encourage people to speculate the reasons as to why Pyramid Head exists to other people, expanding outside the more-than-likely belief that Pyramid Head's reappearances were only to make us clap and cheer. As for the 'Boogeyman' name, well, as far as I'm concerned I always thought the monsters should be named based on what people saw them as, hence why I loved the term 'Pyramid Head', so why can't the Homecoming characters have a different name for him? :) As for the picture in Origins, I'm sure it's an Easter egg...an annoying Easter egg as it makes the continuity of games rather frustrating, but still...

I think we can all agree that when it comes to Pyramid Head's creation we can all point at James and say, "he did it! It was him officer!", but from then on we can't confidently say that Pyramid Head remained exclusive to James. Remember people, Silent Hill...it's pretty screwed up, and it's not just people's psyche but the 'town itself' that create this world. I'd elect to say that Pyramid Head was manifested by James, but is not necessarily exclusive. I'd love for the developers to one day read this Wiki and think that we've overdone it on the symbolism fronts :) Just remember folks, this is Silent Hill, a town wrapped up in so much mystery that it could lose its appeal if the mystery is ever fully and accurately explained, which is why we should revel in the thought that we'll get more questions than answers. --Mechanoise 12:12, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

(to Maxime) He certainly does takes the appearance of executioners from the past but that doesn't necessarily have to mean his appearance everywhere else isn't Pyramid Head/this same entity. It also says, "his form is seen differently depending on the person", which would explain why physically, he's different everywhere else such as a "hybrid" in the Arcade and as a shirtless "Bogeyman" in Homecoming. Same entity, albeit different physical appearances. All "incarnated" means taking the form of something, or being manifested. It doesn't say anything about being a completely separate entity. He's actually given the name Pyramid Head in The Arcade and Book of Memories, yet James is in neither games. And like Mechanoise said, we can't be confident about every mystery of SH. Be open-minded to the possibility of Pyramid Head being a "single entity of Silent Hill" which takes on different "incarnations" or "physical forms". — Alex Shepherd   ツ  12:28, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Also, I removed these two sentences from PH's article because they come as pretty biased-sounding when we don't know the answer for sure:


 * "It is important to note that Pyramid Head did not exist before James' arrival in Silent Hill."
 * "Pyramid Head is exclusive to James Sunderland."

Silent Hill Wiki is not for SH2 purists, it's a general outlook on the entire series without a biased perspective (if that makes sense). — Alex Shepherd   ツ  12:37, February 1, 2012 (UTC)