Talk:Silent Hill Wiki/Archive 2

= July 2009 =

Kenzie LaMar's Artwork
I just received a note back from Kenzie LaMar, one of the character and creature designers who worked on Silent Hill: Homecoming, kindly granting us permission to upload his conceptual designs and models for use on our Wiki, so I'll be working on that today. His work is really detailed, so if you're a fan of his work in the game, you can see them on his Deviant Art account. http://hedrus.deviantart.com/ He also said he'd check out our Wiki! Thanks Mr. LaMar! -- 20:25, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Silent Hill Font
Just thought people might find this useful. http://www.dafont.com/silent-hill.font I'm testing it out on the icons right now. --Faded-Myth 00:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

???
I read it but I am still confused, not at the artical, I am confused at what the Otherworld would be like for my character, she killed her husband like James did Mary, but not by suffication she stabbed him to death, but she wants no one to know about, what would the otherworld look like to her. would it be liek corpses with blood al over the blankets and stuff, but is that all there is too it, and what is that yellow stuff under the floor is it fire from hell or what?


 * Oh Jeebus. My identity as a helper is conflicting with my identity as an artist. The best advice I can offer to you is this: wing it. Make shit up and connect it. As you write, or whatever medium you're using (I forgot :D ), add more references and symbolism, of varying subtlety. The idea of bleeding corpses is good for the symbolism, but fans of Silent Hill won't think it odd or specific to your tale; they're everywhere in the series. But why not have many knives? Perhaps add references to whatever caused the woman to murder her husband? Gaaaaaaaah. I can't even help you. Robert Orville Berkshire 03:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

New Infobox Templates
Should templates be made for the monsters? AlessaGillespie 02:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking of that ever since I first joined this Wiki. I'm going to be busy enough with the new Era icons, so I'll leave that to someone else. ;) --Faded-Myth 02:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Have anything in mind, Alessa? -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  02:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Does this template look good? AlessaGillespie 02:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Honestly, you need more practice on HTML coding. Anyways, I was thinking of making it. How about suggestions for its color scheme and layout? 050294 03:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's the exact same as every other infobox on this site except the movies one, I made sure of that. AlessaGillespie 03:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice try Alessa, always appreciated. Now, this may sound silly, but how does one determine a monster's health in Silent Hill? -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  11:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I assumed the games guides probably gave good indicators of the general health (how long it takes to kill, how tough they area) of the monsters. AlessaGillespie 00:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Splains my ignorance, there. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  00:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I know it's a little odd, but how about a building templates? In these templates can be amount of floors, games the building's appeared in, etc. Anyone think this is ok? 050294 01:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It could work...I know (and forgive the example, if it isn't to your liking) that Bulbapedia has such a template for the various towns in the Pokemon games. Unless anyone can think of a reason not to, I see no problem with the idea (it's always worth a shot, anyway).


 * So, for parameters (and these are only example);
 * Picture (exterior shot, if possible)
 * Building Name
 * No. of floors
 * Location (Street(s) it's on, Area of town it's in, Town it's in)
 * Enemies (If any)
 * Bosses (If any)
 * Items (Names and amount, if applicable)
 * Any keys needed to enter


 * The one thing we wanna avoid is redundancy. If the template can be done in a way that avoids that problem, it sounds alright to me. Bulbapedia's template is the best example I have off of the top of my head. If anyone can think of other examples, feel free to share. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  02:00, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think building templates are a good idea. AlessaGillespie 02:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm on it! Expect it in a minute :D 050294 02:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * A building template....sounds a bit much, especially with those parameters. But what do I know. I guess I'll wait till it's done before writing any building articles.--Butterscotchboy 02:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The parameters were only examples. I'll leave what's included up to 050294's discretion. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  02:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Well? How is it? I thought of simple, yet practical. I believe items and monsters in the building could be on the article itself, as it would take up a LOT of room for some buildings. I did keep bosses, however. 050294 03:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed minor errors. 050294 03:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The green didn't work well with the skin we use, but a welcome addition to the wiki. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  03:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought green would suit the template, but ok. Anyways, I want it a different color, any suggestions?


 * I thought the green was quite festive :D. But, yea, it didn't suit the background. How about a pale brown, or tan-ish color? And yea, listing monsters and items would be too much to put on a template. --Butterscotchboy 03:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Keys
Just a quick question; do keys need to be categorized under items when "Keys" is already a subcategory of items? Same with era icons, should the items and keys icons both apply?--Butterscotchboy 18:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems a bit redundant, no? Feel free to remove item icons and categories if you'd like. -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  01:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Links in templates
Should links to other pages be put in templates? I personally think it's less cluttered if they're left on the regular summary and not the infobox. Some of these pages can be linked to two or three times in one page if a link is put in the infobox. AlessaGillespie 03:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, especially since it also means less typing. If it's not linked in the summary though, (which is pretty rare) then I guess it should be linked in the template. At least that's what I'll do from now on.-- 06:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Honestly, even without templates, I'm seeing double and triple linking to the same pages on literally every single page. I've ever seen a couple of pages with links that linked to the page the link was on. I think some of these pages need cleanup on that. AlessaGillespie 06:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Apologies in advance, since I know that kind of thing can be found on some pages I've made. I don't think I've ever looped to the same article though, haha. I'll go back to some pages and clear extra linkings to help with cleanup-- 07:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well...missed this convo. I've been putting links in infoboxes and removing any doubles from articles. (grumble) -- TheGoodMan  Converse   Workload  15:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Wait, so is it preferable to have the links in the infoboxes or in the actual content? -- 19:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I...hadn't put much thought into that. Each way has its benefits. If we link to pages that can be linked to through the infobox, its better because the infobox is at the top of an article and is, by its nature, an eyecatcher. But, by linking to pages through article content, it compels folks to read an article if they are looking for a certain link. I'm fine either way, though. --<font size="2.5" face="Comic Sans MS"> TheGoodMan <font size="1" face="Arial"> Converse   Workload  11:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * While I'm also against multiple links in one article, I personally don't have an issue with links in Infoboxes appearing again in the main body of the article. Sometimes it's handy when you're going from one to the other, and can click either link. But that's just me. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss    My Workload  17:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Umm, Okay. Thanks for the input guys; from now on I'll be linking mainly in the content, but if there's a change of plans just let me know. The links usually appear near the top of the page anyways, especially in items and most other articles that require the infoboxes, so it's pretty much a combination of both benefits. I'll also go back to some articles and take away links that appear in the infoboxes when their already in the article, to keep articles consistent. But...stop me if I don't need to.
 * ALSO, and this isn't related to the discussion, if you guys want your sigs to appear without filling the edit box with HTML formatting, you can create a User:YOURUSERNAME/autosig page, put   in it and put the autosig page in the custom signature space in Preferences. That way, every time you sign with the tildes the system inserts the template for your sig instead of the actual formatting text. -- 23:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh neato potato. That's very useful, and keeps edits clean. Thanks mate. -- 23:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

= August 2009 =

Quotes Pages
I've noticed that Wikipedia has pages for quotes, so I was wondering if we might do it here too. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  06:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If a character has a goodly amount of memorable quotes, I see no reason not to do so, since it'll prevent the character's page from becoming cluttered. Other opinions? -- 11:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you saying Henry can't have a page? :P Though I find 'Are you alright?!?' when spoken to a nearly dead woman to be quite memorable. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  05:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh Henry, your vacant expression at epileptic abortions and spying on your hot neighbor through a hole in the wall... it makes me smile so. Actually come to think of it, if we made a quotes page, would Heather saying sexy beam during her attacks count as a quote? These are the things that keep me up at night --Henry-Townshend 05:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The James Sunderland quote page will be huge. Yeah, we do need some of those. The Left 4 Dead wiki has them, why not silent hill? even though there will be like 10 "have you seen a little girl" quotes on the harry mason page, James Sunderland's page will be full of what he doesn't need anymore, and Henry's page is just gonna be full of "What the &$!!?". The great knife needs a quote page too. It would be like "scrape. scrape. scrape." If we do this, we'll have 1000 pages in no time!--Dfskelleton 08:22, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Image uploading
I suspect this problem may only be on my computer, as I've also been unable to get several applications including my email to open in a couple of days now, but is anyone else having an issue with the image uploader? I click the Submit button and the source filename disappears and it doesn't upload. *is confused* <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I just tried to upload an image, and it didn't go through either. Maybe the wiki does have a problem. But then again, Butterscotchboy was able to upload the Chain.jpg file, (I think that's what it was called). --Henry-Townshend 05:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm currently able to upload images, but at least once a day the wiki does get all wonky. I always chalk it up to a bad connection, or a problem with the main server (Sometimes instead of loading the main page, I get a page that says "Silent Hill Wiki is having problems, we'll be back to you shortly," or something along those lines). I just wait a couple of minutes and that usually does the trick. Has this been a frequent problem? -- 05:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No, this is the only time this has happened. I guess it's not just my computer since Henry says he was having problems too, which is kinda good to know. Now I can just blame FarmVille and my email on the computer... <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  06:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

My problem isn't uploading images, but when I try to move an Image, my computer locks up and says something about some script thats causing it to be weird and need to close said script, I accept, and I still cant move the image without that thing coming up.--Dfskelleton 08:16, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Spotlight
Congrats to everyone who helped us reach Spotlight status! (and that's a lot of you, anon and named) <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  02:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

SHOOP DA WHOOP!!! SPOTLIIIIGHT!--Dfskelleton 08:13, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Eileen Galvin
Can we attach a note at the top of the Eileen Galvin page asking people not to post Heather Morris as her voiceactor and reminding them that they need direct evidence to prove it (as in, not IMDb)? It's getting rather irritating having to constantly revert peoples' edits because they "saw it on IMDb". <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  02:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

= September 2009 =

Questions about Movie Edits
As I posted in the forum, I recently came across an older version of the script for the movie, which contained a different plot and scenes that never made it into the final movie. Some of these things very clearly contradict the final script, and I'm not worried about those things. My question is about the little things that don't contradict anything in the movie and may very well be true tidbits that just never made it to the big screen. For example, the script mentions that Rose's parents died in a car crash and that Chris works at the university. It is also mentioned that Christabella is headmistress of Midwich, which is hinted at in the film (Christabella is at the school during school hours and her outfit is the same as the childrens' uniforms), but never outright stated. Should these things that make no contradiction to the final version of the movie be added to the character pages? <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  05:47, September 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see a problem, as long as the script is cited. Any objections/concurrences? -- 14:49, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Changing the featured video ?
How do i change the featured vid i have a better one.
 * Upload the video and run it by the regular users, so a decision can be made on that. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie  <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:53, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Ok.


 * First and foremost, the video has to be about Silent Hill. Second, I told you to upload it, not post it on the Main Page. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  04:08, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

So i can put anything aslong as it's silent hill related eh?
 * I warned you. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  04:29, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Helping out the wiki
Due to another spate of vandalism last night that came to almost 500 edits, I'm asking anyone who sees a page that might have been missed in the cleanup to please go ahead and fix it. I'm pretty sure Final Blaster and I got it all, but with so many edits, I worry something may have slipped through the cracks. Thanks guys! <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  10:12, September 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * What is with the recent string of vandalism? It's like every day there's some wannabe vigilante thinking they're making an impact...-- 05:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's the same person doing all of it. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  05:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * That sounds really pathetic :( -- 06:03, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * It is. <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  06:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Why would somebody do that?--Dfskelleton 08:08, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

= November 2009 =

Picture Pages
Does anybody think it would be a good idea to create picture pages for each character and monster? I think it would be pretty sweet to not only have pages that describe the character, but another page of every official picture that can be found. I suggest a new page for it so the pictures wouldn't clutter the main page. What do you guys think? <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I've been thinking of this myself for a long while. Gallery pages. We have one already for Homecoming, and we have the same thing going for the Shattered Memories gallery too. Essentially the page would be, for example, Silent Hill: Homecoming/Gallery. --<font face="Segoe UI" size="3"> Faded-Myth <font face="Segoe UI" size="2"> Discuss    My Workload  02:41, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Good Idea.--Dfskelleton 08:05, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

= December 2009 =

OGG Vorbis
Okay, it was already settled that we wouldn't incorporate OGG Vorbis into the wiki to play songs, but what about things like SFX or soundbites that can't be found on places like Youtube but are important in order to understand certain articles (eg: The Siren, The Prisoner, etc). As long as it's just a recording, or we indicate licensing/trademark, it should be as legit as any Youtube video. Please let me know if this idea is OK/Not OK.

Furthermore, I have uploaded an OGG Vorbis soundfile as a test (here:), but I tried to play it within the wiki and it wouldn't work. Is this an administration thing, or is it something I messed up in conversion? -- 10:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * It should be okay and I think OGG files would be a nice addition to the wiki. I've been researching why it won't play in the wiki and unfortunately I can't find anything. Maybe it has something to do with common.js? I'll keep at it. =S AlexShepherd 10:02, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks friend! As long as it's not breaking rules or anything, it would be a nice addition. Also, I tried to go ahead and make a template for listening to sound files here. I have  NO  experience with templates, though, so I'd be pleasantly surprised if it even works. -- 18:54, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * It looks good! I like the radio, it gives it a nice touch. I'm thinking of swapping our common.js with another wiki's that supports OGG files or can atleast play them. Then if it works and OGG files can be played, I'll swap it back with our original one and try to find out what's causing the problem. AlexShepherd 04:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Turns out it didn't work. I think it has something to an extension on the wiki. I sent a message to Wikia Help to activate the extension, so we'll just have to wait and see. AlexShepherd 04:56, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cool. Thanks for going through the trouble. Oh, and To Zanarkand is one of my favorites. -- 18:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's one of my favs too. :) Good news: the extension is enabled. I made a few tweaks to the template and here's an example of it being used. What do you think of it? AlexShepherd 22:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * COOOOOOOOOOoooooool. It works, huzzah! I think it's great, thanks for going through all the trouble! -- 21:12, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * One more thing, and it's probably something small I'm just not getting, but how do you make it so that the template doesn't create this gap when used alongside text. You can see what I'm talking about here. It's driving me crazy...Again, thanks a bunch. -- 02:05, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * No worries, I noticed that too. I found a solution (by looking at other listen templates), so there's no gap anymore. You're welcome, I'm glad I could be of some help. =] AlexShepherd 04:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

= January 2010 =

It's me Corpsebride5988
This message is to anyone who has played Shattered Memories. I need some help, I am writing a story that is based on the game and I haven't played it yet. But I have seen numerous video's and read bits and pieces of it on this site. Does anyone know any locations that are featured in the game other than the Balkan Church that is now a night club and I think you did mention Alchemilla Hospital making an appearence in the game also. Are those the only two locations that you guys are aware of as of yet? Could you guys help me out please?


 * Sure. There's the cold, frosty streets of Silent Hill in the beginning, then there's Diner 52 and the Good Old Days. And then there's the forest, Midwich High School, The Balkan, and the Dixon Bridge. Then you go through the Freight Railway and Alchemilla Hospital to Lisa's apartment building. Then Toluca Mall and the Green Lion Pawn Shop. After that is the sewers, Annie's Bar and Lakeside Amusement Park. And after that is the boat, the Orpheus and at the end of the game, Harry is at Kaufmann's Lighthouse Clinic. AlexShepherd 23:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

New Header Icon
I must say, I love the new Heather header icon, but it doesn't really match the blue/grey color scheme like the other, previous one did. I think we should change the color scheme again to match this new icon. --Give peace a chance! 04:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm glad that you like it. =) Though I don't know if changing the entire color scheme would work best, so I dulled the warm pigments and added some bluish/greyish pigment so that the icon blends in more. AlexShepherd 23:04, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks great. Did you use Photoshop to make that pic? Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  23:09, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. It's actually Heather's artwork from the UK version of SH3. I used Photoshop to digitally remove the Konami logo in the corner, create the "Wiki", resize the whole thing and adjust the colors a little. AlexShepherd 23:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Was it difficult? Phoenix the Cat The flames reborn....  23:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not really, since I'm pretty good at Photoshop. I might become a photographer or Photoshop artist, so having Photoshop skills is a really nice thing to have. AlexShepherd 23:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, here's something else I made using Photoshop: AlexShepherd 23:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)



Awesome! :D Phoenix the Cat  The flames reborn....  23:37, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it looks really good! Hesham 08:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

= February 2010 =

Vandals
do you guys get a whole heck of a lot of vandals here? i mean, vandals are starting to pile up on really popular wikis. the Sonic wiki is already being flooded with them >_<<font size="2.9" face="Matisse ITC"> Sunny the Hedgehog   --Is a crazy hedgehog  02:22, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

= August 2010 =

Add Lost Memories to the links list
http://www.silenthillmemories.net

A good place for Silent Hill game guides, pictures, and info. - 050294 03:53, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is. It's the one with the orange horse. ;p 05:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Lolwhoops - 050294 04:37, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

= January 2011 =

Italics
I've noticed some differences in editing style involving italics, with different edits made on different pages. Since I believe the wiki should have a standard look, I think a vote should be brought as to how Italics should be used. Names of games, movies, books, etc. should definitely be italicized in the article itself to distinguish them from the rest of the sentence, but should it be done in the section headings and/ or the infobox? I personally believe it should only be in the article itself. What does everybody else think? <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  03:30, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Friendliness of community
I just want to see what kind of community this is before editing anything. Just got done banging head into wall on another wiki in which the admins were asserting that cuttlefish are not at all similar in appearance to octopi or squid(long story). Since much of Silent Hill is interpretive, it could be better or much, much worse. Rules page seems friendly enough, but have not seen enough conflict other than clear vandals to say. Let me know if I break any rules. Am relatively new to wiki edits and it seems there are some rules that people simply expect you to know without them mentioning. -- Shoggoth1890 07:04, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Eh, we're all pretty nice here. Genereally, we won't get on someone unless they specifically ignore the rules or any notes we make on a page (such as when we want people to stop changing a voice actress because there's no confirmation who it really is). And even then, it takes a good bit to irritate one of us. Welcome to the wiki! :) <font size="2.5" face="New Times Roman"> AlessaGillespie <font size="1" face="System"> Talk   Contributions  10:15, January 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Im new to editing too im glad I found this post. Also I have an edit Id like to make that may require source reference but unfortunately It involve Japanese Katakana and I cant find a major website about Katakana. Can I add source material post-edit?  RedPyramidLives
 * The Old God havent left this place 01:37, December 25, 2012 (UTC)