Talk:Prayer

Foreign Vocalizations
Hi there everyone, and I've a question if anyone knows the answer; while listening to "Prayer" it's very clear that there's some sort of musical vocalizations going on, but what exactly? It's also easy to tell it's at least oriented in a type of chanting, but what exactly is being said, if decipherable at all? First let's bring out the video to listen to it: GRAH IT BUGS ME SO BADLY. "Prayer" is one of my favorite pieces in the entire Silent Hill world as I really do find it both so eerie and entrancing. I'm relatively positive they're not just throwing out some rubbish, but rather it sounds like words each time I listen to it. Now I'm only fluent in English and German and know enough Latin to pick it out when I hear it, but it sounds like none. Ha ha I know to most of you, I'm probably rambling about nothing, but I effing adore this piece and am at least trying to figure most of it out. 0:24, at least to me, is when a word can most clearly be made out, something that sounds like: "nin jimununje" aaand I'm sure that was spelled atrociously. I then typed this into Google and redirected me to "juijun deyle," which actually sounds pretty accurate if pronounced "JEE-OHH-JUN ; DAY-LAY". The likelihood of this being correct is further supported by, when redirected, the one link that showed up was in Japanese or Chinese symbols (NOOO I do not know how to discern them). [] is the Google link, but I couldn't open the actual link without my mouse freezing. So I then went to Google Translate- yes, not the best source, but it's worth something. Saved me in a couple German tests so shut up. So I typed in "juijun" and then selected Japanese, and it corrected me with "did you mean 'jui jun'?" No big deal, just a space in-between. The translation is this: ジウ順, or "Ji order ." Obvious connection right there. Realizing "Ji", however, is not English, I then put that into the translator, which auto-corrected to: 時, the last character in the previous translation, which means "when", "time", "occasion", or "hour". Next I tried to figure out "deyle", which like before, prompted an alternate translation: でｙぇ, meaning "in y tut"... no idea what to say about that, other than I know "tut" means "dead" in German, yet I can pretty much assure the song has nothing to do with German because wat. I did a lot of alternatives with spacing and attempted different spellings of how it sounded, and in all, "ぇ/tut" was present.

Nyeh I gotta go at the moment and yes, I do know that I am entirely going off scratch here so don't kill me for it, I am simply really curious with this being such a beloved piece of mine, so I'd really like to figure some of it out. When I come back I should head for a better translator... ----.&#124;&#91;&#91; 0zz. . . (talk) 13:39, August 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm going to second this motion. I'd really like to know what is being said, as well. It really would boost the appreciation of it as a musical piece, I think. -- Somarinoa (talk) 08:06, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Still trying to figure this out, so WHOOP I'M BACK. Although with not much new info... it's driving me crazy, though. I've tried finding foreign language detector apps and all that shit, ha ha. Once thing I did find was this: Early in the song, you can hear what Google Translate (NO, I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE laksdjfaoiweur) says is "Ge mi chie/げ未知恵", which translates to "under not wisdom". It's something at least, but damn do I wish I could find a better source... or something that really could translate the song. As Somarinoa said, I think knowing what is being said will seriously up the level of respect for this beautiful song. This is also something I wanted to bring up, as I thought of this once while listening to it- perhaps is has something to do with the "Like Lotus Satra" thing on the Closer that Rob found? And by that I mean it related to a Buddhist chant, and I looked up some other chants on YouTube to get the feel of how they're done, and "Prayer" could be considered, maybe, a connection. I may be seeeriously over-exaggerating this, BUT DAMMIT THEY'VE GOT TO BE SAYING WORDS. ;A; -- ╟_Ωzz… &#12288; t a l k 16:08, October 23, 2013 (UTC)