Talk:God

Incomplete
This article is not complete. The last few days I've been trying to find time to finish it (writing abut the resurrection ritual, relation the Alessa, effect on the otherworld, similarities with real religions and mythologies, and so on), but personal problems and a slight damage of my right hand has been getting in the way.So I decided to just upload it as it is, in case users would have like to edit it or come with inputs abut the article. --Painocus 22:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This...is a hard article to do a write-up for. It's like a car on its last leg; you start, then stop, you start then stop.
 * I tried to add additional content, but I found myself asking more questions than I was able to answer, so I gave up...(sigh) TheGoodman 22:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't give up! This article is well done, and can STILL be improved! Things can be hard when you go into "article block", and can seem bleak, but just experiment and try. If you can't think even after that, our fellow wikia users can help! 050294 23:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

="The Goddess"=

At which point did any of the games refer to their main god as a "The Goddess"? She's called God because of syncretism with Christianity. At no point have I ever seen the Order call her "The Goddess". In fact "The Goddess" sounds more like something from Dianic Wicca and not Silent Hill. Also, the article switches between "God" and "Goddess". If I were just a normal reader I would be very confused.

Xuchil 02:13, June 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you suggest we should move "God" to "God (boss)" and rename this article to God? AlexShepherd 05:20, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * She is never referred to as "The Goddess" in the games, but She is frequently portrayed as feminine, as opposed to the masculine identity God has in Christian mythos. It seems reasonable to leave it as "The Goddess". Robert Orville Berkshire 22:15, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Robert, females are generally recognized as goddesses, so I don't see where it's too confusing.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  04:18, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, I will repeat: the solar deity of the Order is called "God" because of syncretism of Christianity. It doesn't matter what the "correct" English is, this is how the game addresses it. El(god) is tied to their solar deity, which means that this is now her name. This is noted in the memo of syncretism in the church. (Its like a male being named Artemis. It doesn't matter that Artemis is a moon goddess.) Further proof is in their usage of El in Valtiel, to denote the Order's deity. If they were going for the feminine name they would have used the word Ellat (Goddess)--they didn't.
 * I think that both articles should be merged, considering that some members of the Order do believe God (boss) is the same as God. (Most notably Claudia and Dahlia.)
 * Xuchil 06:06, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that both articles should be merged, considering that some members of the Order do believe God (boss) is the same as God. (Most notably Claudia and Dahlia.)
 * Xuchil 06:06, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Goddess pt. 2
Unable to edit the other one for some reason, so starting another. I agree that this should be renamed "God", and the current God page be renamed "God (boss)". The series gives clear instances of both genders being applied to the god. Even people who refer to it in the feminine use the word "Good". While god is the masculine form, it is also the neuter form, applicable to both genders, the genderless, and the androgynous. The word goddess, however, is exclusively feminine. Considering the imagery of Baphomet that is used and the interchangeable references, it's safe to assume that the god is hermaphroditic/androgynistic, in which case "God"(neuter form) would be the proper word. -- Shoggoth1890 22:10, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, Adam Shepherd refers to God as "He" when he was at the confessional. It wouldn't make any sense to pray to a Judeo-Christian God in a church for the Order, would it? Even if it was a Roman-Catholic styled confessional at that... With that said, it kinda supports the Order's God being androgynistic. --Saila Wei 06:09, October 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * If so, then we're going to have to do an overhaul since there's quite a few pages that link to The Goddess. Would you be willing to help me with that? — Alex Shepherd   ツ  04:43, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd insist on helping. Hate to dump the workload on someone else for something that I thought should be done. I'm trying to get a paper done by Friday, so perhaps till then? I can still do edits here and there, just not bulk ones until I get this done. I assume the relevant non-link references to the Goddess are acceptable to change as well? Kinda surprised wikia's never made a tool to change the links to go to the new page. Just let me know what I need to do and I'll be ready. -- Shoggoth1890 08:13, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okies, I renamed the pages. Use "What links here" for reference:


 * http://silenthill.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/The_Goddess&limit=500
 * http://silenthill.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/God&limit=500


 * Basically everything with linking to The Goddess needs to be renamed to just God, and everything linking to God needs to be renamed God (boss). How about we split the job in half: you work on "The Goddess > God" and I work on "God > God (boss)"? Yup, change non-links too if you find them. You can have a break -- you must finish your paper first. I wish Wikia also had a tool for renaming categories. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  08:32, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan! But for now, sleep. -- Shoggoth1890

Rename?
According to Note on the Ritual (which I somehow missed in the game) the name of the deity is actually "Samael". So what about renaming the page? Final Blaster (talk) 17:18, August 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not certain if every sect refers to this being as Samael. For example, Claudia and Vincent use "God" often in SH3. Dahlia says, "My daughter will be the mother of God!" and the Sun memos also call her "God". We do have Samael listed as one of her other names, though. A memo in SH3 (found in the chapel library) also says that God was given the name of a "demon" by the cult's opponents. It seems likely that "Samael" was this name. Again, it'd be nice if more people who owned the guidebooks could help the site. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  17:34, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

did god make an appearance in Homecoming?
well this question is a bit odd but did she make an appearance in homecoming?Gamma Venom 567 (talk) 23:37, October 24, 2013 (UTC)

She's only mentioned by characters such as Margaret I believe, she doesn't make a physical appearance. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  04:37, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Possible mistake
When Heather ingests that medicine to expel god, how would she vomit the creature? Is the uterus somehow connected to the stomach? Are we supposed to believe that the infant grows in her uterus but then inexplicably goes to her stomach? I don't understand how this works Spirit Slasher (talk) 10:19, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it was just a plot hole. However, Ito has tried to explain it on Twitter by saying that God works similar to the Chestburster from Alien in terms of birth. Makes sense, I guess 🤷‍


 * https://mobile.twitter.com/adsk4/status/1332207505812848640


 * Darkknight2149 (talk) 08:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

The difference there is the fact that the chestburster is specifically implanted within a victim's stomach, or chest cavity. (Why else would a facehugger insert the embryo down the throat? Doesn't make sense especially for a male host) But if that's what he officially told us, then I guess it kinda brings a resolution. However much we wanna nitpick...

It's also rather revolting that Konami doesn't really pay attention to biology and whatnot. But hey, this is a game that screws with your psychological state of mind, so...I guess it's something that's related to suspension of disbelief. Spirit Slasher (talk) 09:09, 20 January 2021 (UTC)