Talk:Heather Mason

Codes
Could someone put the codes to unlock her outfits in the appearance section?--Wavesteel 21:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You can find the codes on some other site, like gamefaqs, but I guess it's OK to have them here too. They're a bit too much to put in that one section though, I think we can just make a separate page for them.


 * The codes are found in the Silent Hill 3 Secrets and Unlockables section
 * Ww2 is great 02:03, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Heather's alternate look
I think they should've kept her "innocent" look,it makes her seem more kinder she looks kinda gothic the way she is.(Naminépower)

Eye Color
Okay...Now I shall stop the eyecolor fighting here once for all... HER EYECOLOR IS BROWN,at least in the game itself. Take a look http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/bulletprooffaces/silenthill/mod/freshstart/heathershirt.jpg err... still not convinced? http://i50.tinypic.com/1e1euw.jpg Loub 20:06, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I could probably pull at least a dozen screencaps showing her eyes have a greenish tint, if that's what you want to go by. If anything, her eyes are hazel, since it's impossible for fully brown eyes to have a green tint at any point.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  06:14, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

...THERE IS NO GREEN TINT IN HER TEXTURE FILE, AS YOU CAN SEE!!!! the lighting of the game can somewhat distort the colors...but her eyecolor is brown... BROWN... not hazel...

if you can find any picture of her with green eyes,then you could prove your theory... but the game files clearly show that her eyecolor is BROWN...--Loub 15:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even on the game cover her eyes have a green tint, as they do in several scenes. Had the creators meant her eyes to be totally brown, they wouldn't have given them that coloration in the artistic renditions of Heather. FYI, "yelling" at other editors and talking down to them isn't accepted here, and it won't help make your argument more legitimate.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  11:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

¬¬...again... I made the AlexShepherd's sample test in the cover... and I found NO green tint on her eyes! proof: http://i48.tinypic.com/200blld.jpg

still dont believe it? then I suggest you to read the Cheryl Heather Mason talk page... in my heart, he owned me there, and now i should honor him and own others in return, to lighten up not illuminated minds...

Interestingly...she seems to be Heterochromic in the cover,but Since she is not heterochromic in the game, this can be counted as an artist's mistake...

I am sorry if my words sounded offensive to you, I didn't mean to be offensive...I always wrote things a little bit out of order , even when I use portuguese and spanish. --Loub 17:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Seems that Heather's eyes are indeed brown (the two screenshots in her infobox pretty much prove this, including her own in-game eye texture). I can't find any pictures of Heather with a green tint in her eyes... except that one concept art of her, but that doesn't really count since it's not final. AlexShepherd 19:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * All of these artworks show Heather with a noticeably green tint to her eyes, as does this. Even in the pictures showing her eyes with only a brown coloration, the color is very light, which denotes either amber or hazel eyes, as almost all pure brown eyes are of a very dark coloration.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  05:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I still can't see any green tint in Heather's eyes..., so Heather's eyes can't be listed as "hazel". Heather's eyes have a very light, dull brown color, almost like amber. About about listing her eyes as "Light brown/amber"? AlexShepherd 22:15, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well.. I 'll try doing something like this,but I am sure that her eyes are not amber, Amber is closer to yellow,they have a golden pigmentation,and her eyes just dont fit in the "amber" category, her eyetone just doesnt have any "golden" tint as amber eyes do,if you know what I mean...what do you prefer? Brown (almost Amber), Light Brown(almost Amber or Amberish Brown...

As I said before, I don't think that her eyes fit in the amber category, that is why it is not listed as an option...But just to make sure...I will use your sample test on an amber eye then compare the results with Heather Samples--Loub 22:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Forget what we said about Amber, her eyes have nothing to do with Amber ones...proof: http://i46.tinypic.com/rmvcqu.jpg

HER EYES ARE JUST PLAIN LIGHT BROWN.(edited infobow)--Loub 22:57, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * They might be amber, go to Wikipedia and scroll down to amber eyes and there's a photo of a woman whose eyes are classified as "amber". I noticed that they looked similar to one of Heather's artwork: AlexShepherd 23:14, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2903/heatheramber.png

Interesting...so eyes that have a copper-ish tint are classified as amber...strangely,none of the sample tests I did had any copper-ish tint, nor the skin files...

hmm...so what eyecolor should we use on her infobox?Amber-ish brown, Brown(almost amber), just Amber or just Brown ?

and if her eyes are listed as Amber, shouldnt Cheryl Heather's eyes be listed as amber as well?

this discussion is driving me insane...when I played the game on the PS2, I thought her eyes were blue (probably because the TV was 10 years old) ; but when I bought the game for PC , her eyecolor was extremely different than the eyecolor I used to see, I first thought it was hazel , but when I saw her skin files at Valtiel's SH site , it was just a plain brown, and after AlexShepherd teached (sorry, I know this is misspelled, I just hate irregular verbs) me how to do the sample test,I used it on Heather's screenshots , and they too were that plain brown...but now this discussion started and my brain started "pulsing" inside my head because of it...I am confused. --Loub 11:15, January 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The reason why I think her eyes are hazel is because her eyes are a light brown color, which is caused by having other colors mixed in (pure brown is a dark color). In-game, her eyes change color constantly, which is why I was like 'Are they gonna pick an eye color for her already?' while I was playing it.Cheryl's and Alessa's eye/ hair color is a pointof confusion for me. Cheryl is said to have black hair, but Alessa's hair is clearly shown to be dark brown in pictures where she's out of shadow. Similarly, Cheryl's eyes are dark brown to the point of almost being black, whereas Alessa's eyes are blue. Then there's Heather, whose eyes are neither blue, nor dark brown/ black. I'm starting to think that Alessa's doppelgangers and reincarnations in the games themsleves aren't designed to look like her.  AlessaGillespie  Talk   Contributions  18:32, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Alessa's reincarnations are really strange ,also,interestingly, Memory of Alessa eyecolor is green with black scleras (at least on the game files, as far as I can remember).--Loub 19:58, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hair Color
Who the hell said that Heather hair is naturally black????

her roots are BROWN and not black...that is why I am going to remove this erroneous information--Loub 17:21, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Depending on different artwork and screenshots, Heather's roots can appear black or brown. The same thing applies to Alessa's overall hair color. Before Harry had her hair dyed blonde, Heather's hair was brunette, a dark brown that looks very similar to black. Also, the way you worded your post can be seen as slightly rude/inappropriate (just letting you know.) AlexShepherd 23:48, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Innocent Look
I wish we could unlock Heather's innocent Outfit thats how I pictured Cheryl as a teenager but with Black hair.We could also explore the game as a innocent person who isn't use to the feel of danger.-LisaGarland101

"Heather is undoubtably the coolest protagnist because she's one of the rarer characters who doesn't have some past guilt or sin to harbor her.She's in Silent Hills because 1 her father was murdered and also 2 previous lives were involved in the making and harboring of Silent Hills Otherworlds."LisaGarland101

Addictive personality?
It's known that Heather smoked, but isn't it also implied that she has also drank before as she describes her headache as "the worst hangover ever." And if it is true, does this mean she has an addictive personality? HeatherMorris6806 18:48, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't say she has an addictive personality it's most likely based on her growing as a teenager.— Riley Heligo  19:01, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

The codes for costumes ar in Silent Hill 3 Secrets and Unlockables section.

Ww2 is great 01:55, April 28, 2012 (UTC)Ww2 is great

Heather babysits
So I found a screenshot of the Silent Hill 3 strategy guide character page that says Heather sometimes babysits. It's funny to me for some reason. I just can't imagine Heather taking care of a bunch of little kids xD — LisaGarland ❤  00:29, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Picture caption needs to be changed.
The picture with Heather aiming her gun at the camera needs to be changed, as her gun is a Beretta 92FS Centurion, not an M86 Cheetah.Kornflakes89 02:10, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you seriously not just change it yourself instead of telling someone else to do it? This is a wiki, but fine. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  12:42, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well i could have but whenever i clicked on the edit button in the gallery it only showed a square image that said "photo" and no captions, you shouldn't just assume everyone knows how to do something just because it's a wiki site.Kornflakes89 21:37, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Change from visual to source you should see this in the gallery section (Minus the " ") "SH3 qualite 3.jpg|Heather with a handgun" change everything after the "|" with the appropriate caption. Sorry if thats the wrong photo example by the way. Mr Hazard 21:52, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry Kornflakes, it just appeared that you were being lazy. If you're having problems editing gallery captions, you should try to fix that first and foremost. Rob's advice should help. Also, I changed it to just 'handgun'. Unless it's outright stated what type the model is, I'd rather just keep it at that to be safe. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  21:55, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Mason, Morris or what?
I was wondering how do we know that the surname of Heather is Mason. His real name would be Cheryl Mason, but they had to change it to avoid the Order, so it would be useless to change Cheryl to Heather if Mason remains the same. Some say that it's Morris, but that's incorrect since Morris is the surname of Heather Morris, the voice and mocap actress for Heather. Everywhere it is said Heather, with no surname. How can we assume that is Mason? Lingüista (talk) 22:16, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

It's assumed that her last name would be Mason, as Harry's name never changes btwn the two games (correct me if I am wrong.) Enjoyableari AKA MommaGamr (talk) 22:30, September 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * "His real name" You mean "her" real name, I know English is not your first language, but Heather is not male, she's female. There is absolutely no need to retcon her name to Morris. Everyone knows her as Heather Mason, plus her PlayStation Home outfit calls her Heather Mason. Not to mention, her name is Heather Mason in the film. There are thousands of people with the last name "Mason" in Maine, and there is no indication Harry changed his name to "Harry Morris". Rumor has it the Japanese novelization also calls her Heather Mason. Also, someone asked Ito about it on Twitter, and he said Heather Mason. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  22:46, September 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know.. maybe it's because it's the surname of her dad? I agree though it's never specifically mentioned anywhere.... Perhaps in a manual.. not sure, it's definetly not in the BOLM (unless I've missed it). I think it's just an auto assumption, like the house in the Silent Hill 1 cutscene... it's never been concluded that it's the Gillespie household (even the BOLM is ambigious on it (only because they buggered up tehehehehe)) but Occam's Razor pretty much denotes that it's the case... same for Heathers last name being Mason. Mr Hazard (talk) 23:19, September 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Her surname is not mentioned in the manual, but it's one of those der der der moments. Come on. Enjoyableari AKA MommaGamr (talk) 23:21, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

They likely didn't mention it because it's a spoiler. You aren't supposed to know Heather is Harry's daughter until meeting Vincent. Continuity wise and in retrospect, Mason is better to differentiate between Heather and her voice actor (and frankly, keep SH from being associated with Glee), and keep in touch with the fans, PlayStation Home and the film. I'm interested in what the the SH3 novel uses. Heather Morris wasn't informed of whether or not her last name would be used, and I think it would be disrespectful to use Morris. "Mason" honors Heather's/Cheryl's relationship with Harry. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  00:49, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, sorry for the confusion between his and her, it's so dumb! I don't know how I could confuse them, I apparently just got all weird for a moment. Thank you for the advice. So we shouldn't assure that her name is Heather Mason, or at least make a comment in the trivia section about this. Just in case. Best regards. Lingüista (talk) 12:52, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Considering Ito's tweet, PlayStation Home, and the film, I don't think it's really necessary. At heart, Heather/Cheryl will always be a Mason to me. I think we should just wait until the SH3 novel is translated. The SH3 novel also reveals Vincent's last name, Smith, though keep in mind, the novel was written by Sadamu Yamashita and not Hiroyuki Owaku. — Alex Shepherd   ツ  13:08, September 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * During concept planning, her name was originally set to be Heather Morris. The developers gave her the same name as her voice actor. However, they later changed her surname to Mason (Why, I do not know, but I will assume that they changed it to confirm that she was Harry's daughter). So her last name can be either Morris, or Mason. -SilentFlashlight 12:33 ,September 19, 2012 (EDT)

A Stupid Question
Did Heather Morris revoice Heather in the Book of Memories cameo? She did say she's never done anything video game related after that. Radioactive Zombie (talk) 23:41, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, Amanda Winn Lee voiced her in BoM. We have it noted on Heather's page in case you didn't know.— Riley Heligo  00:00, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Skirts and Ladders
Played for horror/Squick. When the hospital is changing to the Otherworld, Heather must climb a ladder, and Valtiel is behind it, turning a valve. He is also positioned in a way that would allow him to see straight up Heather's skirt. Given the plethora of other disturbing sexual symbolism, this was most likely intentional.


 * uhhhh, no, I don't think so. I don't think Valtiel cares. — LisaGarland ❤  00:07, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Do we seriously need this many pictures
I find it a little too much and adds almost nothing but padding out the article. --DickmaKlim (talk) 05:40, September 16, 2017 (UTC)